Fusion Evolution V3 (Voting Phase)

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DNA Donors: Shedinja + Unown
Offspring name: Shedown
New type: Psychic/Bug
New base stats: 24/81/66/51/59/44 (+20 Def, +20 SpD) BST: 325
New ability and desc: Power Guard (Levitate + Wonder Guard): Immune to all neutral and resisted attacks, as well as one type of super effective move based on IVs
Bug Immunity (31/30/30/31/30/31)
Dark Immunity (31/31/31/31/31/31)
Fire Immunity (31/31/30/30/31/30)
Flying Immunity (30/30/30/30/30/31)
Ghost Immunity (31/31/30/31/30/31)
Rock Immunity (31/31/30/31/30/30)
Notable moves:
Physical: X-Scissor, Shadow Sneak, Sucker Punch, Shadow Claw, Leech Life, Dig
Special: Bug Buzz, Shadow Ball, Giga Drain, Mud Slap
Status: Swords Dance, Will-O-Wisp, Toxic
Role identification: An improved Shedinja that can choose an extra immunity. With more than 1 HP, it has a slim chance of living an attack.
 

G-Luke

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I doubt we are getting anymore subs, so voting is now officially open!

My Votes
Araquanid/Golisopod
Blissey/Shedinja
Blaziken/Krookodile
Piloswine/Kyurem-Black
Vaporeon/Sylveon
Keldeo/Gengar
Tyrantrum/Torterra
Reshiram/Servine
Raticate/Tauros
Azumaril/Regigigas
 
Giratina/Minior
Reshiram/Servine
Samurott/Genesect
Lugia/Gligar
Tyrantrum/Torterra
Dragalge/Tyrantrum
Deoxys-Defense/Xurkitree

Will add more later
 
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Araquanid/Golisopod
Reshiram/Servine
Giratina/Minior
Mewtwo/Cosmoem
Entei/Pinsir
Staraptor/Talonflame
Blissey/Shedinja
Piloswine/Kyurem-Black
Masquerain/Shuckle
Vaporeon/Sylveon
 
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Jirachi + Manaphy
Dialga + Beautifly
Pyukumuku + Toxapex
Magnezone + Ampharos
Staraptor + Talonflame
Reshiram + Servine
Munchlax + Trevanent
Articuno + Celesteela
Skarmory + Decidueye
Audino + Giratina
ILL DO THIS TOMMORROW
Edit : dun
 
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Roserade / Meganium
Entei / Pinsir
Lugia / Gligar
Giratina / Minior
Samurott / Genesect
Buzzwole / Aggron
Giratina / Minior
Deoxys-Defense / Xurkitree
Zekrom / Doublade
Crobat / Swellow
 
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Ludicrousity

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>tfw you have 5 submissions at the ready and G-Luke opens voting :V

w/e
Roserade / Meganium (114 SpA, and a Giga Drain that has 168 BP, or a Frenzy Plant that has 337 BP... Both before STAB.)
(Also, I didn't make this thing a sprite for nothing :V)
Ekans / Krookodile (Jesus fuck this thing is borked. 720-1296 Atk, and decent priority in Sucker Punch) FeelsCriMan
Krookodile / Blaziken (I like this mon... Simple as. It's a free dragon dance upon KO, and who wouldn't want that?

Also, Rosium sprite:

 
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Dialga/Slakoth
Mewtwo/Cosmoem
Krookodile/Blaziken
Vaporeon/Sylveon
Entei/Pinsir
Masquerain/Shuckle
Guzzlord/Toxapex
Reshiram/Servine
Lugia/Gligar
Mew/Celebi
 
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Mewtwo + Cosmoem (SV1, and it is a well-rounded tank that can run offense with megas)
Meowstic + Porygon2 (SV2, but it does have a unique niche over normal support fusions)
Araquanid + Golisopod (Pretty unique ability to make very strong water pivot moves)
Buzzwole + Aggron (Attacking fusion that boosts defensively, a good combination)
Giratina + Minior (Incredibly versatile, can run both offense and defense without being too unbalanced)
Entei + Pinsir (Risk vs reward fusion that can wall-break, but only switch in once or twice)
Lilligant + Xurkitree (Grass / Electric / Fairy hits a lot of the high BST fusions incredibly hard)
Dragalge + Tyrantrum (Poison Fang needs some love, because it is the only move besides toxic that badly poisons)
Weavile + Togedemaru (Punishes Electric type fusions, and also has BoltBeam STAB coverage)
Staraptor + Talonflame (Talonflame built for Fusion Evolution, and with better coverage!)
 
Guzzlord / Toxapex [SV#1; Everyone likes it, so...]
Buzzwole / Aggron [SV#2; Set up with Rock Head, then Mega Evolve!]
Zekrom / Doublade [SV#3; Shuts down offensive abilities. Simple as that.]
Dialga / Slakoth
Xurkitree / Lilligant
Thundurus-T / Latias
Araquanid / Golisopod
Audino / Giratina
Deoxys-D / Xurkitree
Vaporeon / Sylveon
 
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Lilligant / Xurkitree
Araquanid / Golisopod
Staraptor / Talonflame
Minior / Giratina
Roserade / Meganium
Gengar / Keldeo
Samurott / Genesect
 
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Ludicrousity

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After some fun calcs with Rosium, I found it to be strong af

252+ SpA Choice Specs Rosium Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Houdini-Mega: 448-528 (107.6 - 126.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
This thing one shots a maxed out mon with 106 / 148 bulk in SpD...

252+ SpA Choice Specs Meganium Leaf Storm vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Eviolite Chansey: 523-616 (74.3 - 87.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
-2 252+ SpA Choice Specs Meganium Leaf Storm vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Eviolite Chansey: 261-307 (37.1 - 43.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

This thing also 2 shots the most specially bulky thing in the game

252+ SpA Choice Specs Meganium Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Blisskiss: 468-552 (81.5 - 96.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
This thing also 2 shots something with 185 / 140 bulk in SpD, and maxed out...

252+ SpA Choice Specs Meganium Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Oxybliss-Defence: 426-502 (80.6 - 95%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Same as above, except this one has 162 / 157 bulk in SpD

in short, this thing is destructive...

Although it's countered very hard by mons that resist it, as they can slowly let it lose boosts over and over until it's useless
 


Entei / Pinsir
Giratina / Minior
Araquanid / Golisopod
Reshiram / Servine

Roserade / Meganium

Vaporeon / Sylveon
Staraptor / Talonflame
Deoxys-Defense / Xurkitree
Dialga / Slakoth
Samurott / Genesect

Gengar / Keldeo
Lilligant / Xurkitree

Lugia / Gligar
Guzzlord / Toxapex
Celebi / Mew
Masquerain / Shuckle
Mewtwo / Cosmoem
Blaziken / Krookodile
Zekrom / Doublade
Piloswine / Kyurem-Black
Tyrantrum / Torterra
Buzzwole / Aggron
Dialga / Butterfly

Blissey / Shedninja
Dragalge / Tyrantrum
Chatot / Lunala
Crobat / Swellow
Azumarill / Regigigas
Ampharos / Magnezone

Raticate / Tauros
Tapu Fini / Gogoat
Meowstic / Porygon2
Weavile / Togedemaru
Thundurus-Therian / Latias
Rayquaza / Unown
Cacturne / Beheeyem
Articuno / Celesteela
Munchlax / Trevenant

Here's the vote count!
 
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Araquanid + Golisopod
Entei + Pinsir
Staraptor + Talonflame
Reshiram + Servine
Samurott + Genesect
Azumarill + Regigigas
Tyrantrum + Torterra
 

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but that thing is too powerful seriously it does too much goddamn damage
As a counter to that point, many fusions actually hit that level of power and more, and besides, Unaware, phasing, Topsy Turvy (have you seen how much Malamar subs exist?) and Priority Haze exist as well. Not to mention its slow and frail as hell easily outprioritized. And with Sucker Punch being its only means of priority, it can be easily played around. So all in all, incredibly potent, but still has plenty of glaring flaws.
 
Ekans / Krookodile (Making Power Trip useful? Sign me up) Zekrom / Doublade (replace with Ekans / Sandile if that's on the cards now)
Roserade / Meganium
Cacturne / Beheeyem
(I like Beheeyem)
Staraptor / Talonflame
Deoxys-Defense / Xurkitree
Rayquaza / Unown
Dialga / Beautifly
Dialga / Slakoth
Entei / Pinsir
Reshiram / Servine
 
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There, I edited it onto my votes. (To be fair I do like Ekans and Arbok a lot)
but that thing is too powerful seriously it does too much goddamn damage
As a counter to that point, many fusions actually hit that level of power and more, and besides, Unaware, phasing, Topsy Turvy (have you seen how much Malamar subs exist?) and Priority Haze exist as well. Not to mention its slow and frail as hell easily outprioritized. And with Sucker Punch being its only means of priority, it can be easily played around. So all in all, incredibly potent, but still has plenty of glaring flaws.
Honestly, I agree with Yahooboo on this one...

While the concept of a mon that gets an attack boost on switch-in with ordinarily low stats is pretty cool (basically Huge Power+ with more counters in Topsy-Turvy), in execution, Krookans took it too far. How far? Far enough to OHKO literally everything in the metagame not resistant to Dark types, and 2HKO anything else. Let the calcs speak for themselves...

Decent bulk 100/100 neutral, fully invested will usually get OHKOed.
+6 252+ Atk Krookans Power Trip (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def <100/100 Normal>: 594-699 (147 - 173%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Sickle-Mega, a premier tank, gets OHKOed.
+6 252+ Atk Krookans Power Trip (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sickle-Mega: 336-396 (107 - 126.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Oxybliss-Defense, the premier wall, gets 1-shotted because of its typing alone (and would even if it was not psychic type)
+6 252+ Atk Krookans Power Trip (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Oxybliss-Defense: 1148-1352 (217.4 - 256%) -- guaranteed OHKO

A strange choice, Tyranichomp-Mega T is actually one of the best non-resistant choices against it (which still gets OHKOed)
+6 252+ Atk Krookans Power Trip (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tyranichomp-Mega T: 441-519 (101.6 - 119.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Cofagreelix cannot apply Mummy, as it has already fainted by the time it takes damage from Krookans. (Sash Cofagreelix is niche)
+6 252+ Atk Krookans Power Trip (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Cofagreelix: 764-902 (214.6 - 253.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

One of the benefits of a raw stat boost is that Harem can't switch in and stop it (like it would with Huge Power)
+6 252+ Atk Krookans Power Trip (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Harem: 637-750 (157.6 - 185.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

One of the only things that is iffy countering Power Trip it is Dianbro-Mega, for the reason that it is a fairy type...
+6 252+ Atk Krookans Power Trip (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Dianbro-Mega: 178-210 (46.3 - 54.6%) -- 59.8% chance to 2HKO
...which gets wrecked by Gunk Shot.
+6 252+ Atk Krookans Gunk Shot vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Dianbro-Mega: 612-720 (159.3 - 187.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Valcro-Dark, a viable counter to Power Trip spam, actually gets OHKOed by Gunk Shot (despite resisting it).
+6 252+ Atk Krookans Gunk Shot vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Valcro-Dark: 517-610 (127.9 - 150.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Dittsey, an already very centralizing fusion, is able to take out Krookans if it uses Power Trip (67.6-79.7%)
If it chooses Earthquake, on the other hand...
+6 252+ Atk Krookans Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Dittsey (Krookans): 694-818 (128.9 - 152%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Lastly, a neutral hit on the maximum base bulk (which is impossible) is a 3HKO.
+6 252+ Atk Krookans Power Trip (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def <255/255 Normal>: 291-343 (40.7 - 48%) -- guaranteed 3HKO


In comparison, here is Heratana-Mega, the strongest base physical attacker in Fusion Evolution, using Pin Missile (5 hits from Skill Link to 125BP), against the same Oxybliss-Defense (super effective)
252+ Atk Heratana-Mega Pin Missile (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Oxybliss-Defense: 510-600 (94.7 - 111.5%) -- approx. 87.5% chance to OHKO
Less than half of Krookan's Angery power, even if it does pull off the OHKO anyway.

While none of these calcs use doubled defenses or defense stat increases, they all have maxed physical bulk, and nothing has any time to set up physical defenses.

While Haze-abilities (Porygrigus) and other fusions that have the ability to nullify the attack boost exist, they are far too few in number to justify Krookans' level of power.
Topsy-Turvy, like defense boosting, cannot be used if Krookans uses a Choice Scarf and outspeeds the user (Malamar is rather slow)
A good hit can OHKO Krookans, as it does have iffy bulk (75/72/72 is basically the average sweeper, so not terrible), but again, this is one type (or level of power) that either turns the metagame into Hyper-Offense or a more extreme version of what Ubers and Primal Groudon are right now.
83 base speed is slow for Fusion Evolution, but like Harem, it can use a choice scarf to outspeed everything not named Ninxys (and a few select Megas). Counter-playing Choice Scarf is possible, but once again centralizes the metagame into playing around a certain set on a certain fusion.
Sucker Punch is just icing on the cake, as playing around it (as seen in a dark-type immune like Valcro) is entirely ineffective, as type resists don't matter when you have +6 to your attack.


Overall, while Krookans has a very cool concept (Power Trip is a move that I really want to see be used more), it ended up very, very strong, hitting hard enough to centralize the metagame around "whether or not you can counter Krookans". I would suggest either using Sandile to make its weaknesses more prevalent (while it has less attack, its still very powerful), or nerfing Angery to a smaller boost (or an entirely different function like minimizing the opponent's attack), as Angery in its current state is a better Huge Power that is trades countering some things (stat neutralizers) for countering other things (Harem switch-in mainly).
 
Yeah, okay. The above post has me convinced. To keep things simple this slate, Ekans / Krookodile is not allowed this slate. The only fusion of this sort of nature that I am willing to handle is Ekans / Sandile. Krokorok is not allowed in this sort of combination either. Please change your votes to a different submission if you voted for it. Sorry guys. Also be sure to post what you changed so I can adjust the vote count accordingly.
wait did you actually agree on this with the rest of the council or did you just decide on the spot
i feel like banning someone's fusion this late in the voting stage should at least take 2 people's decisions, even if it's clearly the right choice :P
 
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