-
The moderators of this forum can be found in the CAP forum staff directory.
-
Welcome to Smogon! Take a moment to read the Introduction to Smogon for a run-down on everything Smogon, and make sure you take some time to read the global rules.
-
Congrats to the winners of the 2023 Smog Awards!
CAP 4 CAP 4 - Concept Submissions
- Thread starter DougJustDoug
- Start date
- Status
Yes.Anything it could do would be Outclassed by something else, but it Can do so much stuff at a time, That it doesn't Matter.AKA, it has tons of options to toy around with, but few of them can only be done by it.Which means that this Would actually have MORE options then Mew, But must pull only the ones necessary to the team its on.
it wouldn't out class anyone at a particular thing, it would just have more options to choose from. It might not be as good at performing a certain task but the catch would be that the opponent wouldn't know what its gonna do.
It also fills its own niche by dealing with stealth rocks and/or utilizing gravity or trick room like no otha.
I was thinking about this. I arrived at one question: "Why replace all the other spinners when you can create options?"
That's why I suggested the other types of spins. People would have to consider more than just one thing when defending their entry hazards. So, you could choose to use Rev to block the Normal spin, but then you're open to something else, etcetera.
I'm not sure if I'm the only one who thought of this or not.
Thoughts?
It is a good idea now that you explain that^^
The only problem is... You're talking about creating a whole new move and I dont know if that is possible for the CAP. Also, It would drastically change the way people create teams.
This would normally be a good thing except that we are not game freak. We wouldn't be able to go through deciding which pokemon would get it and which wouldn't. And it seems kinda silly to give it to only one poke and still make the CAP server account for multiple types of spin.
I guess what im trying to say is that this is good in theory but perhaps not applicable here.
The only problem is... You're talking about creating a whole new move and I dont know if that is possible for the CAP. Also, It would drastically change the way people create teams.
This would normally be a good thing except that we are not game freak. We wouldn't be able to go through deciding which pokemon would get it and which wouldn't. And it seems kinda silly to give it to only one poke and still make the CAP server account for multiple types of spin.
I guess what im trying to say is that this is good in theory but perhaps not applicable here.
They created an entire new ability for Syclant and the weather testing, I think a move is possible.
We just wouldn't give it to any old Pokemon. Simple as that. Can easily use it on later CAP projects.
how about one of these that also counters garchomp?
lol
Only if it's a type that something other than ghost has an immunity to (for example: poison, electric, ground).
I'm here to propose a "moderate" Electric / Bug type. This thing would have good HP and Special Attack in particular, but generally can work as both an offensive and defensive Pokémon. Possible access to stuff like Natural Cure and / or Calm Mind. The typing is cool despite Stealth Rock weak, as it nulifies the otherwise-present Ground and Flying weaknesses. Mainly proposing because defensive Electric and Bug types are hard to come by alone and the typing covers itself fairly well.
Oh, sorry, I guess we can't submit concepts based on the most important port of a Pokémon. Alternate typings for this thing could be Electric / Grass..
Oh, sorry, I guess we can't submit concepts based on the most important port of a Pokémon. Alternate typings for this thing could be Electric / Grass..
Seconded; "unblockable" spin is too much.
Au contraire mon frere, an unblockable Rapid Spin would not be broken at all. We are also considering an auto-entry hazard clearing ability, surely that is alot more powerful and many people are saying that would be useful and be needed.
If we're thinking of creating a poke that entirely eclipses the roles of all the current OU rapid spinners, they will be used less or not at all, tough. I don't think we need to worry about Starmie ever being put at the back of the cupboard.
What's more important is the centralising influence that stealth rock currently has on the metagame. Bug, Ice, Fire and Flying types are crying out for an unblockable Rapid Spin or an auto-entry hazard clearing ability.
What would be interesting is a Grass type Stealth Rock. Either that or an Ice type Stealth Rock to nerf Dragons.
I am merely posting my musings because I think the serious concept submission is over and we're all waiting for the concept poll now.
If we're thinking of creating a poke that entirely eclipses the roles of all the current OU rapid spinners, they will be used less or not at all, tough. I don't think we need to worry about Starmie ever being put at the back of the cupboard.
What's more important is the centralising influence that stealth rock currently has on the metagame. Bug, Ice, Fire and Flying types are crying out for an unblockable Rapid Spin or an auto-entry hazard clearing ability.
What would be interesting is a Grass type Stealth Rock. Either that or an Ice type Stealth Rock to nerf Dragons.
I am merely posting my musings because I think the serious concept submission is over and we're all waiting for the concept poll now.
The pokemon is not limited to just one ability and about auto-gravity/sr removal etc we would still have to determine how we want the trait to work.
And I think removing all types of spikes is broken, it would make something like Roselia largely redundant as well as making pure stall almost impossible and limiting hail.
A rapid spinner that can actually get past Revenankh + Spiritomb reliably would be useful but you've seen how hard it is to counter Rev so it would be pretty restrictive in terms of creativity.
I think you misunderstood me; when I said it would be "too much" I meant it would be so drastic an improvement from regular spin that the old spin would become completely obselete. Now, whether that is a bad thing or not is debateable, but I personally believe it would be more interesting to have several valid spinners than a single indisputable one. After all, the whole goal of this project is to diversify the metagame, n'est-ce pas?
That's just my opinion, though.
Also, agreed that the submission portion of this is pretty much over.
And it Could Be EV'd to Counter Certain threats.(*Cough*Garchomp*Cough*)
Just a thought.
Also, Any altrernate rapid spin type that doesn't have an Inmunity would be broken.
I thought that was the community's job, finding typing n that?
though I'd suggest maybe normal? and having it learn weather ball......
Just a heads up.DougJustDoug said:
I think there's a pokemon called Revenankh. Right?
Poopazing beat me to it. Yeah, Revenankh is a "Half-Decent and Preferably Bulky" pokemon with Air Lock. It just so happens that Shed Skin and Rest is much better than Air Lock and Moonlight on it.
But, Wouldn't that Be Even more broken, Since you could Then Use Unblockable Rapid Spins and ANY type of elemental Trap?
I mean, aren't 1 or 2 Points lower then average irrelevant most of the time?
How would you accomplish that Poopazing, tie it into the Hidden Power IVs? Captain beat you to the elemental Stealth Rock by the way, Crystal Burst is the user's first type, second layer is the second type if applicable. For example, Tentacruel would lay a layer of Water-type Rocks and then a Poison-Type. This has nothing to do with the topic at hand, and I'm rambling. Still, I think that all the good ideas have been posted, edited, reposted, reedited, and regurgitated by users who have no clue what they're talking about and just want a say in the process. But that's my opinion.
EDIT: Also, I've seen an influx of people posting ideas that are direct copies of Pokemon already in existence, telling me that this has completely run its course, and people haven't read up on the previous projects.
EDIT: Also, I've seen an influx of people posting ideas that are direct copies of Pokemon already in existence, telling me that this has completely run its course, and people haven't read up on the previous projects.
Concept: The power of wind
Description: An Ambipom-esque Pokemon that capitalizes on forcing the opponent to switch, through Whirlwind of course, but also through other attacks that force the opponent to switch as a secondary effect.
And yes--I am envisioning a Farfetch'd evolution. Its stats would be like Ambipom's or Zangoose's: frail defenses, decent offenses, decent speed.
Description: An Ambipom-esque Pokemon that capitalizes on forcing the opponent to switch, through Whirlwind of course, but also through other attacks that force the opponent to switch as a secondary effect.
And yes--I am envisioning a Farfetch'd evolution. Its stats would be like Ambipom's or Zangoose's: frail defenses, decent offenses, decent speed.
For the last time, this isn't going to be an evolution. Also, can't you just use Skarmory?
- Status