SPOILERS! Pokemon Sun and Moon Full Game Datamine General Discussion Thread

[SunWarrior]

Two questions:

Does anybody knows if Hidden Abilities are obtainable in-game? Just like X and Y when we got access to them (most of them) Post-game in the Friend Safari. Really want that Snow Warning Ninetales as soon as posible :P

Any word about if the Legendaries are Shiny-Locked or not?

 

[R_N]

No coverage and trench tier stats even after a buff...Yeah lets not bother with this.

maybe it gives a higher boost

rue the day of delcatty's 200 base normal blizzards with stab

 

[KrewlKat]

Could I get a comprehensive list of all new moves and abilities.

 

[R_N]

Could I get a comprehensive list of all new moves and abilities.

http://www.smogon.com/forums/thread...mine-resource-thread-look-here-first.3586425/

 

[Olijolly]

The only thing I'd like to know is just how big aerilate boost will be.

 

[Zukrad]

So... this is probably fake, but I have to ask, because I'm seeing it EVERYWHERE

Did Gyarados lost Intimidate?

 

[david0895]

Does we know the pokemon version esclusive?

 

[Zukrad]

Does we know the pokemon version esclusive?

http://www.cpokemon.com/sunmoon/diferencias-entre-versiones/pokemon-exclusivos/
Is in spanish, but it doesn't matter I guess.

Just in case, Sol=Sun, Luna=Moon

 

[Siggu]

http://www.cpokemon.com/sunmoon/diferencias-entre-versiones/pokemon-exclusivos/
Is in spanish, but it doesn't matter I guess.

Just in case, Sol=Sun, Luna=Moon

I did see that too but I couldn't find that list anywhere else. Hopefully they are right.

And exclusive pseudo-legendaries would be a first in the series, right?

 

[Zukrad]

I did see that too but I couldn't find that list anywhere else. Hopefully they are right.

And exclusive pseudo-legendaries would be a first in the series, right?

I think so... let me check

 

[MrTharne]

Goodra so disappointing they made it share a spot with Flygon (I mean it gets DD now so that's really cool)

 

[david0895]

http://www.cpokemon.com/sunmoon/diferencias-entre-versiones/pokemon-exclusivos/
Is in spanish, but it doesn't matter I guess.

Just in case, Sol=Sun, Luna=Moon

so are these wrong?

 

[MrTharne]

so are these wrong?

Description of the video said that exclusivity was switch by error.

 

[Zukrad]

I did see that too but I couldn't find that list anywhere else. Hopefully they are right.

And exclusive pseudo-legendaries would be a first in the series, right?

Ok, I'm back

Tyranitar was a Diamond, Platinum and HGSS exclusive in 4th gen
Mence was a Pearl, Platinum and HGSS exclusive in 4th gen
Mence was a White (thanks to White Forest), Black2 and White2 exclusive in 5th gen
Garchomp was a Black2 exclusive in 5th gen
Tyranitar was an Y exclusive in 6th gen (You can get it from friend safari in X tho)

Bonus!!

In spin offs (Mystery dungeon)
Nite, Tyranitar, Mence and Chomp were exclusive from "Keep Going! Blazing Adventure Squad!"
Metagross was exclusive "Let's Go! Stormy Adventure Squad!"
"Go For It! Light Adventure Squad!" had no pseudo legendaries rip

 

[Siggu]

Question: What does Nature Power turn into this generation?

 

[Zukrad]

Question: What does Nature Power turn into this generation?

I haven't got confirmation from any dataminer, but one of them mentioned that Z-Nature Power changes to the type of the Nature power (So, Nature Power Energy Ball transform into Boom Blossom or whatever). All the examples he mentioned were the moves that Nature Power already transformed into

 

[lydian]

Like I said before, I cant help but feel like most of the Pokemon were made with the permanent VGC ladder in mind, which may explain the slow speeds. Stuff like Oranguru, Incineroar, Shiinotic, and Vikavolt totally lack appeal to me in singles, but sound like good things to test under doubles Trick Room to me!

I can clearly see that Shiinotic isn't appealing in singles, but how can he be good in doubles?? As of Incineroar and Vikavolt, they appear to be above average in singles imao. Incineroar with Intimidate and good bulk, and Vikavolt with that crazy special attack...

 

[Theorymon]

I can clearly see that Shiinotic isn't appealing in singles, but how can he be good in doubles?? As of Incineroar and Vikavolt, they appear to be above average in singles imao. Incineroar with Intimidate and good bulk, and Vikavolt with that crazy special attack...

For shiinotic, I'm interested in it because of spotlight.

 

[Siggu]

For shiinotic, I'm interested in it because of spotlight.

I'd be more interested... in Smeargle, thanks to its significantly higher Speed.

 

[CrazyFerret]

Any news on if we will be able to use the sports ball? I've found an item sprite for it in the files but I'm not sure if that means it will be obtainable.

 

[AztecCroc]

Any news on if we will be able to use the sports ball? I've found an item sprite for it in the files but I'm not sure if that means it will be obtainable.

Sprite's probably just there for compatibility with HGSS pokemon caught in it.

 

[Philos]

Does anybody know if Passimian's receiver is kept after it switches out? I saw it learn U-turn which will make it a powerfull threat if it gets something like Adaptability or Huge Power with a Scarf.

 

[Zukrad]

Sprite's probably just there for compatibility with HGSS pokemon caught in it.

But they are usable in the game, while in XY were unusable

 

[richi3f]

OmegaDonut just confirmed that there's some styles that affect the ways that you throw Poké Balls: left-handed, reverent, smug, passionate, idol, and girlish. I'd like to see them before commenting, but I hope the girlish style is not a reference to "throwing like a girl." If it is, this is going to be my biggest beef with this gen.

http://www.cpokemon.com/sunmoon/diferencias-entre-versiones/pokemon-exclusivos/
Is in spanish, but it doesn't matter I guess.

Just in case, Sol=Sun, Luna=Moon

Oh, man, I pre-ordered Moon because I like Lunala and Oranguru better, but Sun gets some of my favorites (Rampardos, Garchomp and Whimsicott). Ugh, guess I'm stuck with ugly Bastiodon, Goodra and Lilligant.

Question: What does Nature Power turn into this generation?

Nature Power is confirmed to turn into Tri-Attack in link battles.

 

[Nexus]

http://www.cpokemon.com/sunmoon/diferencias-entre-versiones/pokemon-exclusivos/
Is in spanish, but it doesn't matter I guess.

Just in case, Sol=Sun, Luna=Moon

about this they list Goomy line for Moon but according to the encounter tables you find Trapinch in Moon and Goomy's nowhere to be found so might be a mix up. Ctrl+F here for trapinch to see ithttp://pastebin.com/YjNi4Qdk