Playoffs Smogon Grand Slam IV - Play-offs - No Winner

[Kushalos]

I still want my RU open win :(

 

[Larry]

Can't we just give the trophy to Freestylerking?

 

[trc]

see Sam

 

[nLTk]

[2016-01-06 15:58:59] <reyscarface> <trc> bouffalant is going to have a trophy
[2016-01-06 15:59:01] <reyscarface> blame dice
[2016-01-06 15:59:10] <dice> why blame me
[2016-01-06 15:59:28] <reyscarface> didnt u ghost him
[2016-01-06 15:59:29] <reyscarface> (BAN ME PLEASE)
[2016-01-06 15:59:41] <dice> idk hypothetically in previous rounds
[2016-01-06 15:59:41] <dice> maybe

[2016-01-09 10:17:48] <Can-Eh-Dian> jarii vs bouff is soon
[2016-01-09 10:17:51] <Can-Eh-Dian> if bouff ever wakes up
[2016-01-09 10:17:54] <dice> no it aint
[2016-01-09 10:18:03] <dice> bouff wont play without me holding his hand all game
[2016-01-09 10:18:08] <dice> and i wont be on in like 30 min so
[2016-01-09 10:18:12] <dice> =/

[2016-01-12 13:37:21] <dice> then again bouffs gonna win grand slam
[2016-01-12 13:37:27] <dice> and it's all my fault
[2016-01-12 13:37:28] <dice> .cry

[2016-01-14 09:04:12] <Can-Eh-Dian> its gonna be disjunction
[2016-01-14 09:04:17] <dice> .
[2016-01-14 09:04:22] <dice> that dude is aids
[2016-01-14 09:04:57] <dice> i ghosted bouff to beat him in nu open
[2016-01-14 09:05:00] <dice> he's rly bad
[2016-01-14 09:05:04] <dice> ez 2-0

good tour lol :P

love dice b.c he hella rad

grats bouffer

I guess he should get unbanned now

 

[Malekith]

Pillo sitio.

 

[Valentine]

Congrats nobody

 

[Wings of Night]

requesting name change to nobody

 

[-Tsunami-]

#freefrontier

 

[destinyunknown]

en hilo historico

 

[Valentine]

ROFL

 

[Always!]

Oh, was Slam still going on?

 

[Style_Dota]

Free the Official VGC tournament

 

[Laurel]

I have been saying for months Kingler12345 deserved this trophy!! Did you see how he played against me in the re-do semifinals it was absolutely inhuman!

he must've been ghosted bro.

grats on finals of adv cup

 

[Teddeh]

Tbh it sucks that there can't be an official tour for tiers other than OU anymore :(

 

[Pocket]

Is there any official tournament left that are free of cheating? We should probably cancel OST while we're at it.

Way to ruin everything for the rest of us, cheaters.

 

[watashi]

When confronted with the evidence, Bouff admitted to the wrongdoing.

what a bouff thing to do

 

[g]

always said these two presences in "Il Quarto Stato" by Giuseppe Pellizza da Volpedo were a bit suspicious...

 

[Cynara]

These ghosting incidents are getting really ridiculous, It's kinda saddening to see that a select few ruin the tournaments for others till it boils down to the point where nobody wins. People actually don't play for the fun anymore and just for the sake of popularity on a competitive pokemon forum and for a pixel trophy.

 

[Foggi]

These 'tournament bans' will never stop the ghosting train. I guess the TD's should just allow ghosting in the upcoming tournaments rofl

 

[Slimmer]

Tbh it sucks that there can't be an official tour for tiers other than OU anymore :(

Eo didn't say Grand Slam will be deleted forever but it will be discussed.

Tbh the problem is that people that don't usually play subtiers join these tours and then ask ghostings cuz they cant play them properly so where's the fkn sense in joining them (same can be said for Classic I guess)

 

[Saria]

Both Bouff and dice will be infracted and tournament banned for 6 months.

shouldn't they be tour banned for a year?

 

[Aberforth]

Eo didn't say Grand Slam will be deleted forever but it will be discussed.

Tbh the problem is that people that don't usually play subtiers join these tours and then ask ghostings cuz they cant play them properly so where's the fkn sense in joining them (same can be said for Classic I guess)

Maybe the sense in joining them is that its the only way to even have a chance of winning an individual trophy if you dont play OU.

 

[Slimmer]

Maybe the sense in joining them is that its the only way to even have a chance of winning an individual trophy if you dont play OU.

I worded that bad maybe. I mean what's the sense for a non-subtier player in joining subtier tournaments if he does not play the tier and then he has to ask someone else to help him aka ghosting ?

 

[Marikeinen]

What can you do about ghosting, realistically? Screenshare? You can easily have another monitor / computer / phone next to you to use for ghosting.

This whole tournament scene is really dumb and arbitrary, since there's NO WAY for ghosters or ghostees (?) to get caught if they do it properly. You really have to rely on "honor", which gets easily set aside when a contestant has winning and only winning on his mind.

Integrity of the tournament is gone bla bla bla, how was there any integrity to begin with? Ghosting has ALWAYS happened, this is just one of the first times people take responsibility for it.

As for consequences; permanent ban? The people involved could just continue to ghost with no further consequences. Temporary ban? Seems kinda light of a punishment for cheating in major tournaments.

Smogon lacks:

1) The tools to monitor fair play
2) The tools to properly punish for cheating

And there's realistically nothing you can do to fix it. So called ladder heroes get constantly told that ladder means nothing and tournaments are the place to prove your worth; how is that any true in the lights of these facts? You could realistically be as bad as me and succeed in major tournaments with a little help from your friends with no consequences to any of the participants.

Yes, I'm nobody, yes I'm bad, don't let that direct you away from these facts: tournaments are a joke from a competitive standpoint.

 

[eren]

pokemon is a joke

 

[phantom]

trc Kingler12345