Deck Knight
Blast Off At The Speed Of Light! That's Right!
Approved by Elevator_Music
This subject has been approached multiple times, I think we're finally ready for something like this. There are a number of questions that need answering:
1. Should we allow the submission of concepts for tiers other than OU?
This question is the crux of the matter and will define the rest of the discussion. Essentially we choose OU because it is the metagame most accessible to the highest number of people. The project is designed to be competitive and competitive in our current understanding is Singles OU.
If we change that understanding, the following questions ensue:
1a. Which tiers should we allow submission for?
Uber, UU, RU, and NU seem the most pertinent here, though there is space for concepts that also exist in banlist environments. There is also the thorny issue of whether Gen 5 CAP counts as its own tier, and Little Cup is obviously its own tier, but its rules put huge pressures on the process and it is much more obscure. To maintain a decent playerbase I think we should stick with Uber, UU, and NU as the start of our exploration and move outward from there based on the success of such a project. Other thoughts are appreciated.
1b. When and by what mechanism should the tier be decided?
Once we establish that other tiers can be explored, we have to decide when we decide this tier. One option is a decision at the outset of the project by either a popular vote or the topic leader. The second option is to tie the tier directly into the concept and have concepts in different tiers compete with each other in the concept phase. The final option is to decide the tier after the concept through either popular vote or the topic leader.
My personal sympathies lie with tying the tier to the concept so that a submitter can fully flesh out their specific vision for the Pokemon and issues of that tier, and let people decide on which concept they would like. OU does have a built-in numbers advantage, but I think a concept that was interesting enough would merit a lot of attention for looking into a lower tier.
Additional thoughts and discussion welcome.
Language Considered for a Vote (Under Amendment Review):
Should we, at any point in the time in the future, have a dedicated Forum-wide CAP Project for a tier other than OU of the most current generation, with the timing and parameters of such Project to be decided in a future PRC thread?
There will be 24 hours to amend the language.
This subject has been approached multiple times, I think we're finally ready for something like this. There are a number of questions that need answering:
1. Should we allow the submission of concepts for tiers other than OU?
This question is the crux of the matter and will define the rest of the discussion. Essentially we choose OU because it is the metagame most accessible to the highest number of people. The project is designed to be competitive and competitive in our current understanding is Singles OU.
If we change that understanding, the following questions ensue:
1a. Which tiers should we allow submission for?
Uber, UU, RU, and NU seem the most pertinent here, though there is space for concepts that also exist in banlist environments. There is also the thorny issue of whether Gen 5 CAP counts as its own tier, and Little Cup is obviously its own tier, but its rules put huge pressures on the process and it is much more obscure. To maintain a decent playerbase I think we should stick with Uber, UU, and NU as the start of our exploration and move outward from there based on the success of such a project. Other thoughts are appreciated.
1b. When and by what mechanism should the tier be decided?
Once we establish that other tiers can be explored, we have to decide when we decide this tier. One option is a decision at the outset of the project by either a popular vote or the topic leader. The second option is to tie the tier directly into the concept and have concepts in different tiers compete with each other in the concept phase. The final option is to decide the tier after the concept through either popular vote or the topic leader.
My personal sympathies lie with tying the tier to the concept so that a submitter can fully flesh out their specific vision for the Pokemon and issues of that tier, and let people decide on which concept they would like. OU does have a built-in numbers advantage, but I think a concept that was interesting enough would merit a lot of attention for looking into a lower tier.
Additional thoughts and discussion welcome.
Language Considered for a Vote (Under Amendment Review):
Should we, at any point in the time in the future, have a dedicated Forum-wide CAP Project for a tier other than OU of the most current generation, with the timing and parameters of such Project to be decided in a future PRC thread?
There will be 24 hours to amend the language.