SPOILERS! Pokemon Sword and Shield Datamine Thread

[Pikachu315111]

... Okay I'm all aboard calling these fake just to save the dignity of Glastrier and Calyrex.

But if this is true, GF, seriously, what the f@#$ is wrong with you? You'd think at some point they would get tired of slow bulky Ice-types, BUT NOPE, here's one more for the pile (though I guess it'll be good in Trick Room...)! And if you didn't want to make Calyrex overly powerful in one stat why not just have 100 in each stat? Why is it only slightly better than GLALIE & PHIONE? It was already gonna struggle against Celebi, now Celebi is leaving it in its dead leaves dust.

 

[Gravity Monkey]

More HP means nothing for an attack that goes off of the percentage of HP tho. And eleki/drago were both said to have the strongest attacks of their respective types. 200 offenses were heavily implied imo

I think he meant more on a flavor base for the HP. And who knows their ability might be that they just do 2x more damage with their stabs lol

 

[467 11 11p]

Probably World Hat Pikachu from Pokemon Journeys

that aged like fine wine LOOOL

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1319433855992954880

 

[Siggu]

More HP means nothing for an attack that goes off of the percentage of HP tho. And eleki/drago were both said to have the strongest attacks of their respective types. 200 offenses were heavily implied imo

Should I remind people of this?

 

[CTNC]

They made a Legendary Pokemon with stats like the ambiguously Legendary Phione's... Being able to be OHKOed by Phione just makes it worse.


252+ Atk Phione U-turn vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Celebi: 292-348 (85.6 - 102%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

Possible damage amounts: (292, 296, 300, 304, 308, 312, 316, 320, 320, 324, 328, 332, 336, 340, 344, 348)

 

[G-Luke]

More HP means nothing for an attack that goes off of the percentage of HP tho. And eleki/drago were both said to have the strongest attacks of their respective types. 200 offenses were heavily implied imo

I know that it doesnt matter mathematically, but for purely flavor reasons I understand why it was the case.

 

[Sirya]

This is a pretty ill-informed take.

Regieleki is probably going to have a good niche, at least. 100 base attacks isn't that bad with an ability that boosts its STAB. It'll also be a good Specs user, most likely. Revenge killing it is hard since very few pokemon can compete with base 200 speed.

Regidraco is very likely bad, I agree.

Both GArticuno and GMoltres entirely depend on their movepool, since their stats are fine. Moltres could become a great tank if it gets some nice defensive/support moves. It has similar bulk to mandibuzz, but it can at least hit decently hard.

Ice Horse looks like a doubles mon. 30 speed is bad, but man can it dent a lot of mons with its offense. Ghost is nutso.

So, we are saying the same thing because I also stated that Regieleki may find some redemption, altho i srsly think it wont even be deoxys-s on past gens and its work will be solely as a rkiller, mostly outclased by koko in neutral, and I maybe -just maybe- im understimating moltres, only time will tell, because knowing game freak im pretty sure this dudes have just pulled off a bulky moltres with no movepool to protect it. The icy horse is probably trash outside tr teams.

 

[Mario With Lasers]

I really wonder if anyone in Game Freak plays their damn game.

How do you make a 30 Speed Ice-type and a 130 Speed Ghost-type WITH SPECIAL MOXIE in the same breath

 

[R_N]

I really wonder if anyone in Game Freak plays their damn game.

How do you make a 30 Speed Ice-type and a 130 Speed Ghost-type WITH SPECIAL MOXIE in the same breath

And if you're going to make ANOTHER slow defensive ice type could you at least rememeb to give it some regenerative .... anything!

 

[Lectrys]

More HP means nothing for an attack that goes off of the percentage of HP tho. And eleki/drago were both said to have the strongest attacks of their respective types. 200 offenses were heavily implied imo

Yeah, even if Transistor doubles the power of Electric attacks, if the leaks are real, the only reason why Regieleki's Thunder Punch would hit harder than Mega Mawile's is because Regieleki gets STAB on Thunder Punch.

On another note, I don't think it's beyond Centro to find real horse stats, find in embarrassment that their horse name guesses were wrong, then stick the stats on their horse name guesses anyway.

 

[Yung Dramps]

CENTRO LEAKS IS A HACK FRAUD

 

[AtlasFlame18]

centro leaks has been far too suspicious, why hasnt any of this been taken down already, the stuff shown is way too bonkers

You know it's real. These stats match Game Freak's Modus Operandi since Gen 7

 

[Crimson Chris]

Well, do we have movepools for these mons yet?

 

[Gravity Monkey]

So, we are saying the same thing because I also stated that Regieleki may find some redemption, altho i srsly think it wont even be deoxys-s on past gens and its work will be solely as a rkiller, mostly outclased by koko in neutral, and I maybe -just maybe- im understimating moltres, only time will tell, because knowing game freak im pretty sure this dudes have just pulled off a bulky moltres with no movepool to protect it. The icy horse is probably trash outside tr teams.

Bruh base Moltres has Roost, Defog, U-turn and Hurricane and thats literally all you need lol

 

[fratelli bc]

The Ice Horse couls work in doubles with TR tho
Remember GF makes things thinkg of VGC

 

[Peaches144]

And if you're going to make ANOTHER slow defensive ice type could you at least rememeb to give it some regenerative .... anything!

Ice Rider is still Calyrex and Calyrex is a psychic-type so it's highly likely it gets Recover. So does Avalugg but Avalugg doesn't have the HP and Sp Def of Ice Rider.

 

[SamuraiCelebi]

At this point, I think GAME FREAK just hates the Ice-type.

 

[Snaro]

To me some of these stats are disappointing enough to be real. I mean, it's all I expect from Pokemon nowadays.

 

[TURBODERP]

Wait so this datamined information is speculative?

 

[bb skarm]

 

[AtlasFlame18]

The Ice Horse couls work in doubles with TR tho
Remember GF makes things thinkg of VGC

That thing is going to dominate in trick room if it gets the right coverage

 

[Ckarasu]

So, we are saying the same thing because I also stated that Regieleki may find some redemption, altho i srsly think it wont even be deoxys-s on past gens and its work will be solely as a rkiller, mostly outclased by koko in neutral, and I maybe -just maybe- im understimating moltres, only time will tell, because knowing game freak im pretty sure this dudes have just pulled off a bulky moltres with no movepool to protect it. The icy horse is probably trash outside tr teams.

It's a bad take because your words contradict themselves often, man. "It's trash, but actually not"(paraphrasing here) is kinda a bad opinion to state. The birds aren't trash yet, either(we'll know once movesets come out). Ice Horse is trick room for sure, though.

 

[Eve]

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CENTRO LEAKS IS A HACK FRAUD

can't confirm the implications of this post but would like to bump it!

 

[lydian]

ice horse when it founds out it (supposedly?) has base 30 speed

 

[Sirya]

>doesn't need a scarf like genesect does
>ability lets it hit hard without coinflipping a download boost
>has a STAB pivoting move
>can run a damage boosting item
>mixed offenses that might also get extremespeed itself

etc.

Wait for the movepool to see what coverage it gets then we'll know for sure how good this thing is going to be.

> Genesect doesn't need a scarf, it can do wonders with c.band and LO and has been demostrating so since gen 5.
> Download isn't coinfliping, in fact, in a Pokémon as genesect with so many options, its very maneable. Again, has been demostrating so since generation 5.
> Because we know Genesect doesn't have U-turn, a scout move that doesnt have any inminuties -unlike electric- coming from an attack that fluctuates between 300ish, 600ish and 800ish without setting up.
> Horsea can also run a damage boosting item. What Genesect can do, is run drives too, so he can evaporate mons like Heatran with unique, only-designed-for-it items.
> Mixed offenses that aren't even comparable. U have seen its a 100 100 right?

This mon is nowhere near Genesect.