are we forgetting the term sufficiently easier? these two pokemon i mention because they really only have a few amount of counters. mismagius is my primary example - she is only countered by registeel and spiritomb and if we want to get technical we can go to the lower ranks; drapion and skuntank counters her as well but they are lesser used. with registeel placed in a deep slumber, you would think that mismagius will sweep your team sufficiently easier with one of its best counters removed from the match.
And you're accusing me of being arbitrary when comparing OUs and UUs?? How much easier is "sufficient"?? How do you define sufficient?? Can you ball-park a figure, perhaps?? Basically, all you're doing is using Venusaur to lure in Registeel in and put it to sleep. That's called a lure. Plenty of Pokemon can act as a lure and kill or severely incapacitate a counter for something else to sweep. There is a difference between the Support Characteristic and a lure. You can just as easily bait in Venusaur with an Offensive Milotic and kill it and possibly open up a sweep for something else with Venusaur out of the way. I know you hate OU-UU comparisons, but if you would read on, they are valid. Superachi consistently lures in Swampert and Heatran and destroys both, allowing your DD Tar or SD Lucario sweep
substantially easier, for example.
this is one of long post but i'll keep my response short and concise. you are overthinking this too much. you are stripping the definition of consistency to its flesh. we have no set stone percentage to what consistency is but experience speaks louder than percentages. if my venusaur is always sleeping the same two pokemon nearly every game i play, then i consider that consistent. the characteristics did not guarantee a scot free sweep, nor did i mention this once; however, it did say it will provide a sufficiently easier sweep for insert pokemon. in this case, one of very few of mismagius' hard counters are removed from the match and you really cannot ignore the fact that it will sweep easier now whether you have swellow in the wings or not. the very fact is, registeel is still asleep and swellow can easily be switched out on. with swellow dead, mismagius is still alive! and can still sweep sufficiently easier with registeel sleeping. thanks to venusaur's consistency to place nearly the same two pokemon every game, it will help me other pokemon sweep. we may view things differently, but i still think this is support.
Yeah, see above. What you're using is a lure, and there is a difference between lures and being too powerful under the Support Characteristic.
it is affected by the tier. we cannot compare two different tiers because the metagame trends are completely different. one has more steel-types, the other doesn't; one has more dragon-types, the other one doesn't. it's simple as that. while i will agree on the fact they can be similar in what they do, they are just not comparable due to different metagame trends.
You can compare them if you take those different metagame conditions into account, in which I have. I might as well reword the Support Characteristic while retaining its full meaning to:
A Pokemon should be banned, if it can consistently create conditions for another Pokemon to sweep in its relative tier. This should completely get rid of any tier related confusions, because you are now considering one Pokemon relative to its tier compared to another Pokemon relative to its tier (Basically I'm standardising them). I'm not sure about where you come from, but where I'm from the uni entrance exams are different in different states (Which kinda sucks, but whatever). So basically, you compete in one state, then your result is standardised against the rest of country to give you a university entrance score. Basically, you have your student (Pokemon) competing in one state (Metagame), and then is compared against someone else from a different state (Another Pokemon in another metagame). So here, we can compare Venusaur to Breloom if we consider their performance relative to their tiers and comparing THOSE two.
it is relevant. it makes venusaur a better illustration of the support characteristics. it shows that he is more potent and definitely not one sided and can do plenty things outside of simply sleep powdering + leaf storming stuff. but i straw away from stiff comparisons between uu and ou pokemon, i just can't do it because the pokemon switching in are different.
No, it isn't. Again, the Support Characteristic says NOTHING about this. I would like to remind you of your previous nomination of Dugtrio. If the Support Characteristic has anything to with versatility, Dugtrio should not have been nominated since he is probably, after Wobbuffet, one of the most one-dimensional Pokemon in existance. It is a complete contradiction here.
I could answer some of the later bits, but they are mostly answered by what I have already said, so yeah.
The major difference here is that Breloom is incredibly slow in its respective metagame, threatens less, and is nowhere close to bulky, not to mention Grass/Fighting is resisted by anything with wings. Also, let's not forget there are OUs strong enough to take the sleep and KO on the spot, like Celebi and Zapdos. OU is a stronger metagame in general, so it can handle even a 100% chance to sleep better than UU can handle 75%.
None of what you said are directly relevant to the Support Characteristic, but collectively, they hold more weight, so I'll answer them one by one.
1) Breloom's speed: Doesn't matter since there is a whole truckload of Pokemon he can switch into that are slower than him and incapacitate with Spore (Assuming 252 Spe Adamant). This includes: Base 100s that don't invest in speed, 216 Timid Magnezone, Scizor, Tyranitar (non-Jolly), Abomasnow, Metagross, no speed Rotom-A, etc etc. The point is that there are still plenty of slower Pokemon that he can do his thing on.
2) Threatens less: Venusaur actually doesn't directly threaten that many things without Sleep Powder (At least not many more than Breloom anyway). He is threatening to what, bulky Waters, bulky Grass, bulky Grounds, which is exactly what Breloom is threatening to (Apart from bulky Grass, which you can easily replace with bulky Steel minus Jirachi).
3) Less bulky: Breloom is bulky enough with enough resistances to abuse to do his job.
4) Grass/Fighting resisted by "winged" Pokemon: Tell me this when you switch into Stealth Rock and lose at least 50-60% (Accounting for 25%, of course). Or, alternatively, you can tell me this when your Flying Pokemon gets roflstomped by Stone Edge.
5) Take Sleep and OHKO back:
WHAT?! How can you OHKO me when you're asleep and don't carry Sleep Talk???!!!! (Taking into account that Celebi and Zapdos hardly ever run Sleep Talk). Anyway, Celebi and Zapdos are good Breloom counters, just like how Registeel and Weezing are good "counters" to Venusaur. Your Celebi or Zapdos can potentially lose if you stay asleep long enough, too (If you're running Speed, you get killed faster, and if you're carrying bulk, Breloom would just Sub, take your attack and put you to sleep when you wake up again).