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A little while ago, I was asking on IRC and nobody could really figure out the answer to the following question:
Why are NFEs banned from UU play?
The only answer that I have been able to find is "it would turn UU into 'OU lite'". My response to that is: isn't the whole point of UU to be OU lite? We created a UU environment so that we could use pokemon that aren't viable in OU. If pokemon like Gabite and Pupitar are not OverUsed, then aren't they UnderUsed by definition? If Rapidash and Gabite are both not powerful enough for OU, why should we ban one from UU but not the other unless one of them proves to be too strong for UU (in which case it should become BL)?
As I understand it, the current policy is that every NFE pokemon that has no major type, trait or usage differences from their evolved counterpart is banned. This gives a pretty lengthy ban list from UU, which includes all Uber, OU, BL and not fully evolved pokemon except for Vigoroth, Trapinch, Pikachu, Scyther, and Clamperl (there may be a couple more). This puts my count at 348 pokemon banned from UU (223 because of NFE status), but only 19 banned from OU.
This current blanket ban on NFEs produces some extremely odd occurences in the tier. For example, Eevee is banned from UU but Flareon isn't. Vulpix is banned but Ninetales is not. Nidoran-M is banned but Nidoking is not, etc etc.
I am posing this question to people who have more experience with UU than I, and to people who feel that NFE versions of OU pokemon would potentially corrupt UU play. What is wrong with allowing NFEs in UU? If they prove to be broken in the tier, they can just be moved to BL, which is the ban list for UU by definition. Snover and Hippopotas' auto-weather have been heralded as broken in the tier by UU enthusiasts. But, can't they just become BL pokemon? It doesn't matter if Hippopotas can't compete well in BL play, because BL is a faux tier that is meant to be a ban list from UU and not a viable metagame.
What are the actual reasons for disallowing these NFEs in UU, and what can be done to incorporate them? What better way to decentralize the UU metagame than to unban 223 pokemon?
Why are NFEs banned from UU play?
The only answer that I have been able to find is "it would turn UU into 'OU lite'". My response to that is: isn't the whole point of UU to be OU lite? We created a UU environment so that we could use pokemon that aren't viable in OU. If pokemon like Gabite and Pupitar are not OverUsed, then aren't they UnderUsed by definition? If Rapidash and Gabite are both not powerful enough for OU, why should we ban one from UU but not the other unless one of them proves to be too strong for UU (in which case it should become BL)?
As I understand it, the current policy is that every NFE pokemon that has no major type, trait or usage differences from their evolved counterpart is banned. This gives a pretty lengthy ban list from UU, which includes all Uber, OU, BL and not fully evolved pokemon except for Vigoroth, Trapinch, Pikachu, Scyther, and Clamperl (there may be a couple more). This puts my count at 348 pokemon banned from UU (223 because of NFE status), but only 19 banned from OU.
This current blanket ban on NFEs produces some extremely odd occurences in the tier. For example, Eevee is banned from UU but Flareon isn't. Vulpix is banned but Ninetales is not. Nidoran-M is banned but Nidoking is not, etc etc.
I am posing this question to people who have more experience with UU than I, and to people who feel that NFE versions of OU pokemon would potentially corrupt UU play. What is wrong with allowing NFEs in UU? If they prove to be broken in the tier, they can just be moved to BL, which is the ban list for UU by definition. Snover and Hippopotas' auto-weather have been heralded as broken in the tier by UU enthusiasts. But, can't they just become BL pokemon? It doesn't matter if Hippopotas can't compete well in BL play, because BL is a faux tier that is meant to be a ban list from UU and not a viable metagame.
What are the actual reasons for disallowing these NFEs in UU, and what can be done to incorporate them? What better way to decentralize the UU metagame than to unban 223 pokemon?