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[/hide]Now marked as a Final Submission.
I'd like to present the following as my stat spread submission for CAP11.
Base Stat Distribution90 HP / 85 Atk / 80 Def / 105 SpA / 80 SpD / 110 SpeDerived Statistics (Calculator)
PS: 153 (R6: Very Good)I will go through the relevant individual sections of the stats and discuss why I made them as I did, and then review some damage calculations to help reinforce the points I make.
PT: 132 (R5: Good)
SS: 193 (R7: Excellent)
ST: 131 (R5: Good)
BSR: 337 (R6: Very Good)
BST: 550
Overall Style
The overall style for these stats is to function as a specially-inclined mixed sweeper. There are hints of Infernape in this stat spread, but with the bulk of something like Machamp and the special inclination of something like Gengar, all rounded together into what you see above. I generally felt that hitting harder on the special side was important, as STAB in Fighting-type attacks goes a long way to punch through special walls, such as Snorlax and Blissey. The special inclination is so that once these special tanks are out of the way or too scared to come in, CAP11 needs the special punch to take out typically physically defensive threats like Zapdos, Celebi, and Rotom-A. With his Fighting/Dark typing and higher SpA stat, CAP11 can beat down many things that would otherwise threaten a Togekiss sweep, such as Blissey and Rotom-A.
Offensive Reasoning
Base 85 Attack is a reasonable attacking stat. You won't be sweeping teams with it, but it is a good level to have when using high-power super effective attacks against very specific threats. It is important in a mixed sweeper to be able to have enough of an offensive presence to scare off would-be counters, and a base 85 Attack stat does just that. Let me show you with some relevant calculations to show you what I mean. Notice how even 252/4 Skarmory is never 2HKOed by Close Combat; this, in my opinion, is an important upper threshold for the Attack stat of CAP11.
Offensive Calculations (Physical)I have provided CAP11 with a base 105 Special Attack stat, which clearly indicates its special bias. With just enough physical firepower to scare off special walls, special-attacking CAP11 has a better shot at dealing some serious damage with its attacks. This stat is just enough alone to OHKO defensive Rotom-A after Stealth Rock damage, and can even go so far as 2HKOing physically defensive Zapdos with Stealth Rock damage. I have provided +2 calculations for if someone pulls off a successful Nasty Plot Baton Pass from Togekiss to CAP11, and these damage calculations indicate just how powerful such a prospect is. Notice how a +2 Dark Pulse has enough power to even OHKO physically bulky Cresselia without Stealth Rock damage. A base 105 Special Attack stat, as you can see, gives CAP11 enough power to punch through a lot of the metagame, but doesn't overdo it and still hits a few roadblocks against specific Pokemon. This is important for balancing CAP11, but keeping its offensive presence high in the OU metagame.Code:All calculations will assume a neutral nature in the attacking stat, so add 10% damage if you're using a boosting nature. You shouldn't be using a reducing nature ever, though, if you're using that attack. [B]Close Combat [/B]4 Hasty Life Orb Pokemon Close Combat vs. 252/252 Bold Leftovers Blissey : 74.8% - 88.2% vs. 4/252 Bold Leftovers Blissey : 81.9% - 96.6% vs. 168/120 Careful Leftovers Snorlax : 70.8% - 83.5% vs. Naive Choice Scarf Heatran : 87.3% - 102.8% vs. 252/176 Impish Shed Shell Skarmory : 26.3% - 31.4% vs. 252/4 Impish Leftovers Skarmory : 29.9% - 35.3% vs. Adamant Life Orb Lucario : 140.9% - 166.5% vs. 4/0 Jolly Choice Scarf Tyranitar : 157.9% - 187.1% vs. 160/0 Adamant Choice Band Tyranitar : 141.7% - 168% 252 Hasty Life Orb Pokemon Close Combat vs. 252/252 Bold Leftovers Blissey : 97.5% - 114.6% vs. 4/252 Bold Leftovers Blissey : 106.7% - 125.5% vs. 168/120 Careful Leftovers Snorlax : 91.8% - 108.5% vs. Naive Choice Scarf Heatran : 113.3% - 133.7% vs. 252/176 Impish Shed Shell Skarmory : 34.4% - 40.7% vs. 252/4 Impish Leftovers Skarmory : 38.6% - 45.8% vs. Adamant Life Orb Lucario : 182.2% - 215.7% vs. 4/0 Jolly Choice Scarf Tyranitar : 207% - 243.3% vs. 160/0 Adamant Choice Band Tyranitar : 185.8% - 218.4% [B]Mach Punch[/B] 4 Hasty Life Orb Pokemon Mach Punch vs. 252/252 Bold Leftovers Blissey : 25.2% - 29.7% vs. 4/252 Bold Leftovers Blissey : 27.6% - 32.5% vs. 168/120 Careful Leftovers Snorlax : 23.9% - 28.6% vs. Naive Choice Scarf Heatran : 30.3% - 35.9% vs. 252/176 Impish Shed Shell Skarmory : 9% - 10.8% vs. 252/4 Impish Leftovers Skarmory : 9.9% - 12% vs. Adamant Life Orb Lucario : 47.7% - 56.2% vs. 4/0 Jolly Choice Scarf Tyranitar : 53.8% - 64.3% vs. 160/0 Adamant Choice Band Tyranitar : 48.3% - 57.7% 252 Hasty Life Orb Pokemon Mach Punch vs. 252/252 Bold Leftovers Blissey : 32.8% - 38.7% vs. 4/252 Bold Leftovers Blissey : 35.9% - 42.3% vs. 168/120 Careful Leftovers Snorlax : 31% - 37% vs. Naive Choice Scarf Heatran : 37.8% - 45.2% vs. 252/176 Impish Shed Shell Skarmory : 11.7% - 13.8% vs. 252/4 Impish Leftovers Skarmory : 12.9% - 15.6% vs. Adamant Life Orb Lucario : 60.5% - 72.6% vs. 4/0 Jolly Choice Scarf Tyranitar : 70.2% - 84.2% vs. 160/0 Adamant Choice Band Tyranitar : 63% - 75.6% [B]Crunch / Sucker Punch[/B] 4 Hasty Life Orb Pokemon Crunch / Sucker Punch vs. 252/252 Bold Leftovers Blissey : 24.9% - 29.6% vs. 4/252 Bold Leftovers Blissey : 27.3% - 32.4% vs. Timid Choice Scarf Rotom-H : 77.2% - 92.1% vs. 252/168 Bold Leftovers Rotom-H : 48% - 57.2% vs. 252/252 Bold Leftovers Rotom-H : 44.1% - 53.3% vs. 0/4 Timid Life Orb Gengar : 113.4% - 134.1% vs. 252/0 Jolly Light Clay Azelf : 75.1% - 88.7% vs. 4/0 Naive Focus Sash Azelf : 91.1% - 107.5% vs. 252/252 Bold Leftovers Cresselia : 28.4% - 33.8% vs. 252/220 Bold Leftovers Celebi : 36.1% - 43.1% vs. 252/0 Calm Leftovers Celebi : 49% - 57.9% vs. 4/0 Modest Choice Specs Celebi : 57.9% - 68.4% 252 Hasty Life Orb Pokemon Crunch vs. 252/252 Bold Leftovers Blissey : 32.5% - 38.4% vs. 4/252 Bold Leftovers Blissey : 35.6% - 42% vs. Timid Choice Scarf Rotom-H : 100.4% - 119.5% vs. 252/168 Bold Leftovers Rotom-H : 61.8% - 73.7% vs. 252/252 Bold Leftovers Rotom-H : 57.9% - 69.1% vs. 0/4 Timid Life Orb Gengar : 147.9% - 174.7% vs. 252/0 Jolly Light Clay Azelf : 96.6% - 114.1% vs. 4/0 Naive Focus Sash Azelf : 117.1% - 138.4% vs. 252/252 Bold Leftovers Cresselia : 36.9% - 43.7% vs. 252/220 Bold Leftovers Celebi : 46.5% - 55.4% vs. 252/0 Calm Leftovers Celebi : 62.9% - 74.8% vs. 4/0 Modest Choice Specs Celebi : 74.3% - 88.3%
Offensive Calculations (Special)Defensive ReasoningCode:All calculations will assume a neutral nature in the attacking stat, so add 10% damage if you're using a boosting nature. You shouldn't be using a reducing nature ever, though, if you're using that attack. [B]+0 Dark Pulse[/B] 252 Hasty Life Orb Pokemon Dark Pulse vs. 252/0 Bold Leftovers Blissey : 15.7% - 18.6% vs. 4/252 Bold Leftovers Blissey : 14.4% - 17.2% vs. 0/4 Timid Choice Scarf Rotom-H : 114.5% - 135.3% vs. 252/4 Bold Leftovers Rotom-H : 90.8% - 107.2% vs. Timid Life Orb Gengar : 142.5% - 167.8% vs. 252/4 Jolly Light Clay Azelf : 110.2% - 130.5% vs. 4/0 Naive Focus Sash Azelf : 152.1% - 179.5% vs. 252/0 Bold Leftovers Cresselia : 53.2% - 62.6% vs. 252/0 Bold Leftovers Celebi : 71.8% - 85.1% vs. 252/220 Calm Leftovers Celebi : 53.5% - 62.9% vs. 4/0 Modest Choice Specs Celebi : 84.8% - 100.6% [B]+2 Dark Pulse (Baton Passed!)[/B] 252 Hasty Life Orb Pokemon +2 Dark Pulse vs. 252/0 Bold Leftovers Blissey : 31.7% - 37.4% vs. 4/252 Bold Leftovers Blissey : 28.7% - 34% vs. 0/4 Timid Choice Scarf Rotom-H : 229% - 269.7% vs. 252/0 Bold Leftovers Rotom-H : 182.2% - 215.1% vs. 252/4 Bold Leftovers Rotom-H : 181.6% - 213.8% vs. Timid Life Orb Gengar : 285.1% - 335.6% vs. 252/4 Jolly Light Clay Azelf : 220.3% - 259.3% vs. 4/0 Naive Focus Sash Azelf : 304.1% - 358.2% vs. 252/0 Bold Leftovers Cresselia : 105.4% - 124.3% vs. 252/0 Bold Leftovers Celebi : 144.6% - 170.8% vs. 252/220 Calm Leftovers Celebi : 106.9% - 126.2% vs. 4/0 Modest Choice Specs Celebi : 170.8% - 201.8% [B]+0 Aura Sphere[/B] 252 Hasty Life Orb Pokemon Aura Sphere vs. 252/0 Bold Leftovers Blissey : 35.6% - 42.3% vs. 4/252 Bold Leftovers Blissey : 32.5% - 38.7% vs. 168/220 Careful Leftovers Snorlax : 45.7% - 54.1% vs. 0/4 Naive Choice Scarf Heatran : 107.7% - 126.9% vs. 252/0 Impish Shed Shell Skarmory : 65.9% - 78.1% vs. 252/252 Impish Leftovers Skarmory : 48.5% - 57.5% vs. 0/4 Adamant Life Orb Lucario : 155.9% - 183.6% vs. 4/0 Jolly Choice Scarf Tyranitar : 127.5% - 152% vs. 160/0 Adamant Choice Band Tyranitar : 114.4% - 136.5% [B]+2 Aura Sphere (Baton Passed!)[/B] 252 Hasty Life Orb Pokemon +2 Aura Sphere vs. 252/0 Bold Leftovers Blissey : 71.4% - 84% vs. 4/252 Bold Leftovers Blissey : 64.7% - 76.4% vs. 168/220 Careful Leftovers Snorlax : 90.7% - 106.6% vs. 0/4 Naive Choice Scarf Heatran : 215.5% - 253.3% vs. 252/0 Impish Shed Shell Skarmory : 132% - 155.7% vs. 252/252 Impish Leftovers Skarmory : 97.3% - 115% vs. 0/4 Adamant Life Orb Lucario : 311.7% - 367.3% vs. 4/0 Jolly Choice Scarf Tyranitar : 256.1% - 301.8% vs. 160/0 Adamant Choice Band Tyranitar : 229.9% - 270.9% [B]+0 Hidden Power Fire (70BP)[/B] 252 Hasty Life Orb Pokemon (70bp Fire Special) vs. 252/0 Impish Shed Shell Skarmory : 68.9% - 81.4% vs. 252/252 Impish Leftovers Skarmory : 50.9% - 60.5% vs. 248/0 Adamant Choice Band Scizor : 120.1% - 142.3% vs. 252/0 Relaxed Shed Shell Forretress : 146.9% - 172.9% vs. 252/252 Careful Leftovers Forretress : 96% - 113% vs. 252/92 Sassy Leftovers Bronzong : 37.3% - 44.4% [B]+2 Hidden Power Fire (70BP) (Baton Passed!)[/B] 252 Hasty Life Orb Pokemon +2 (70bp Fire Special) vs. 252/0 Impish Shed Shell Skarmory : 137.1% - 161.7% vs. 252/252 Impish Leftovers Skarmory : 101.8% - 119.8% vs. 248/0 Adamant Choice Band Scizor : 240.2% - 283.4% vs. 252/0 Relaxed Shed Shell Forretress : 291.5% - 343.5% vs. 252/252 Careful Leftovers Forretress : 189.8% - 223.7% vs. 252/92 Sassy Leftovers Bronzong : 74.6% - 88.2% [B]+0 Flamethrower (For Fun!)[/B] 252 Hasty Life Orb Pokemon Flamethrower vs. 252/0 Impish Shed Shell Skarmory : 93.4% - 110.2% vs. 252/252 Impish Leftovers Skarmory : 68.9% - 81.4% vs. 248/0 Adamant Choice Band Scizor : 163.3% - 192.4% vs. 252/0 Relaxed Shed Shell Forretress : 198.9% - 235% vs. 252/252 Careful Leftovers Forretress : 128.8% - 152.5% vs. 252/92 Sassy Leftovers Bronzong : 50.9% - 60.4%
I have given CAP11 90/80/80 defenses. As is plainly visible, these balanced stats are much alike Machamp, who has 90/80/85 defenses. This should give you a hint at the sort of bulk that CAP11 will have with my spread. The following calculations have been prepared to provide you with an idea of what this sort of bulk can achieve, if the comparison to Machamp weren't enough. Notice that if, for whatever reason we decided to use Leftovers, we would not be 2HKOed by Physically Defensive Zapdos's Thunderbolt. I have only provided calculations from threats that everyone has been concerned with since the beginning of this CAP project. Offensively inclined Pokemon, such as Jolteon, put a serious hole in these defenses, but it's important to see below that Choice Specs Jolteon's Thunderbolt does not OHKO CAP11 after Stealth Rock damage. That is a respectable feat for a mostly offensive Pokemon, and something that I believe CAP11 needs. Lastly, if 252 HP EVs are used, Choice Scarf Tyranitar's Superpower will never OHKO CAP11, which is impressive and the threshold I used for CAP11's physical defensiveness.
Defensive CalculationsSpeed ReasoningCode:[B]No Investment[/B] 0/0/0 Timid Pokemon vs. Bold Leftovers Zapdos Thunderbolt : 46.7% - 55.1% vs. 252 Timid Life Orb Zapdos Thunderbolt : 73.8% - 87.2% vs. Bold Leftovers Zapdos Heat Wave : 32.7% - 38.6% vs. 252 Timid Life Orb Zapdos Heat Wave : 51.7% - 61.1% vs. 252 Timid Choice Scarf Rotom-H Thunderbolt : 49.8% - 59.2% vs. Bold Leftovers Rotom-H Thunderbolt : 40.2% - 47.7% vs. Bold Leftovers Rotom-H Discharge : 34% - 40.2% vs. 252 Timid Choice Scarf Rotom-H Shadow Ball : 20.9% - 24.9% vs. Bold Leftovers Rotom-H Shadow Ball : 16.8% - 19.9% vs. 252 Timid Choice Specs Jolteon Thunderbolt : 77.6% - 91.6% vs. 252 Timid Choice Specs Jolteon Shadow Ball : 21.8% - 25.5% vs. 252 Timid Life Orb Jolteon Thunderbolt : 67.3% - 79.4% vs. 252 Timid Life Orb Jolteon +1 Thunderbolt : 100.3% - 118.7% vs. 252 Timid Life Orb Jolteon (70bp Ice Special) : 33.3% - 39.3% vs. 252 Timid Life Orb Jolteon +1 (70bp Ice Special) : 49.5% - 58.6% vs. 64 Impish Shed Shell Skarmory Brave Bird : 87.9% - 103.4% vs. Impish Leftovers Skarmory Brave Bird : 80.4% - 95.3% vs. 252 Jolly Choice Scarf Tyranitar Stone Edge : 31.5% - 37.1% vs. 252 Jolly Choice Scarf Tyranitar Crunch : 12.5% - 14.6% vs. 252 Jolly Choice Scarf Tyranitar Earthquake : 42.1% - 49.5% vs. 252 Jolly Choice Scarf Tyranitar Superpower : 100.3% - 118.4% [B]252 HP Investment[/B] 252/0/0 Timid Pokemon vs. Bold Leftovers Zapdos Thunderbolt : 39.1% - 46.1% vs. 252 Timid Life Orb Zapdos Thunderbolt : 61.7% - 72.9% vs. Bold Leftovers Zapdos Heat Wave : 27.3% - 32.3% vs. 252 Timid Life Orb Zapdos Heat Wave : 43.2% - 51% vs. 252 Timid Choice Scarf Rotom-H Thunderbolt : 41.7% - 49.5% vs. Bold Leftovers Rotom-H Thunderbolt : 33.6% - 39.8% vs. Bold Leftovers Rotom-H Discharge : 28.4% - 33.6% vs. 252 Timid Choice Scarf Rotom-H Shadow Ball : 17.4% - 20.8% vs. Bold Leftovers Rotom-H Shadow Ball : 14.1% - 16.7% vs. 252 Timid Choice Specs Jolteon Thunderbolt : 64.8% - 76.6% vs. 252 Timid Choice Specs Jolteon Shadow Ball : 18.2% - 21.4% vs. 252 Timid Life Orb Jolteon Thunderbolt : 56.3% - 66.4% vs. 252 Timid Life Orb Jolteon +1 Thunderbolt : 83.9% - 99.2% vs. 252 Timid Life Orb Jolteon (70bp Ice Special) : 27.9% - 32.8% vs. 252 Timid Life Orb Jolteon +1 (70bp Ice Special) : 41.4% - 49% vs. 64 Impish Shed Shell Skarmory Brave Bird : 73.4% - 86.5% vs. Impish Leftovers Skarmory Brave Bird : 67.2% - 79.7% vs. 252 Jolly Choice Scarf Tyranitar Stone Edge : 26.3% - 31% vs. 252 Jolly Choice Scarf Tyranitar Crunch : 10.4% - 12.2% vs. 252 Jolly Choice Scarf Tyranitar Earthquake : 35.2% - 41.4% vs. 252 Jolly Choice Scarf Tyranitar Superpower : 83.9% - 99%
A lot of people think it's important to outspeed Starmie. A lot of people think it's important to outspeed Choice Scarf Tyranitar. I say that these threats are things that CAP11 should not deal with. It is important, first and foremost, for there to exist Pokemon that can wear a core down, both offensively and defensively. That means that things like Choice Scarf Tyranitar or Life Orb Starmie need to be trouble. I fixed the Speed stat for CAP11 at 110, right on top of Gengar. I did this for two primary reasons:
Gengar can OHKO CAP11 with Focus Blast. CAP11 can OHKO Gengar with Dark Pulse / Crunch. This is an important and very balancing Speed tie for CAP11, one that keeps it in check by the faster metagame. I imagine partners for CAP11 outside of Togekiss and other bulky Flying-types would include specially bulky pivots like Bronzong (for Stealth Rock) and Snorlax. These pivots will support the core well, made more so by the fact that the player may not always be willing to risk a Speed tie with Gengar or losing out against the likes of Starmie. 110 is enough Speed for CAP11, and I hope that after reading this, you will agree.
- Reliably outspeeding Infernape with maximum Speed investment.
- Always Speed tying with Gengar - a tie that can make or break a match if the players are willing to risk it.
Closing Remarks
Abilities are going to play a large role in exactly how much damage is either dealt by or dealt to CAP11. Suffice in knowing, though, that I have tailored these stats to supply CAP11 with the necessary bulk and necessary offensive power to support Togekiss well and play effectively on his own in the metagame. Simultaneously, I have tried very hard to keep the effective power level of these stats reasonable so that we are not creating "just another broken CAP" as many nay-sayers would like to call them. I hope that you all see in these stats the same balance that I put many hours developing and testing out.
Good luck to all entrants of this stage of the process!
Final Submission
Zy and me would like to present the following stat spread for CAP11:
Distribution:
85 HP / 80 Atk / 85 Def / 100 SpA / 95 SpD / 120 Spe
Ratings:
PS: 147 Good (5)
PT: 135 Good (5)
SS: 189 Excellent (7)
ST: 148 Good (5)
BSR: 343: Very Good (6)
BST: 565
Style and Explanations:
We took into consideration the potency of the type combo, the possibility of a Nasty Plot pass from Togekiss, and of course, this Pokemon's self sufficiency. As such, the stat spread aims mostly on the Special Sweeping side of things, but considering that special attacking Fighting and Dark type moves are relatively weak (okay, Fighting has Focus failure), we decided that some Attack stat would help this Pokemon act as a standalone threat. A major part of that is being able to break down Special walls such as Blissey or Snorlax.
Focusing on the Special side of things help against Rotom-A, who could burn CAP11 and rendering its physical prowess useless
Attack:
As previously stated, we do not want CAP11 to have a high Attack stat as we want Togekiss' Nasty Plot support a viable option. Another important thing to point out is that according to the Type-Move chart, being a Fighting type forces Bulk Up into its movepool. Furthermore, being part Dark-type gives it guaranteed access to Taunt (unless the TL stays otherwise). With 120 Speed at hand, CAP11 could decimate teams with Bulk Up, Taunt, and almost unparalleled coverage, should we have hit the base stat limit (93) with the spread.
Special Attack:
A reasonable 100 base Special Attack should be enough for this Pokemon to deal a fair amount of damage. With impressive coverage, this Pokemon can prove to be deadly even with somewhat weak special attacks. However, for the Pokemon to pose a truly serious threat, a Nasty Plot support from Togekiss is needed.
Defenses:
Immediately, you will notice that this CAP's defenses are quite similar to Machamp's, albeit slightly more overall. Machamp is already surprisingly bulky, so you can get a general idea of how bulky this CAP is (not too bulky...though). However, do remember that the offensive inclination of this Pokemon will often lead to uninvested Defenses. Even though Togekiss' Special Defense is higher than its physical Defense, it is weak to two types of moves that CAP11 does not resist (yet...), so CAP11 has a slightly higher Special Defense to help take these hits.
Speed:
This is CAP11's highest stat, and 120 Speed allows it to pummel through Scarftar and Starmie, two potential problems. Although Starmie doesn't trouble Togekiss, CAP11 takes 71.4% min from LO Starmie Hydro Pump (meaning that after a bit of damage, Starmie can destroy the core quickly). Scarftar, on the other hand, can easily OHKO uninvested CAP11 with Superpower (and I'm certain you will not switch Togekiss into Tyranitar, would you?). Seeing as Scarftar is already one of the largest threats to Togekiss, CAP11 should be able to quickly stop it. Another important bit of info is that Tyranitar 3HKOes CAP11 with Stone Edge, so it effectively has one chance of switching into TTar before getting mauled on the next one. 120 Speed helps overcome this issue.
If there are anything that should break the core, it should not be these two. There are other Pokemon that can pose a threat to this core (e.g Metagross, Scizor, and I guess even Gyarados).
Calcs and Words from Zy
Zystral said:Follow on to Jibaku's post.
All Offensive calcs assume Hasty nature unless noted otherwise.
All Defensive calcs assume Timid/Jolly unless noted otherwise.Code:[U]All Calcs assume Life Orb unless noted otherwise[/U] 252 SpA Pokemon Aura Sphere vs. 252/0 Bold Leftovers Blissey : 34.5% - 40.6% vs. 252/92 Calm Leftovers Empoleon : 71% - 83.9% vs. 248/204 Modest Leftovers Heatran : 66% - 77.9% vs. 0/4 Naive Choice Scarf Heatran : 104% - 122.6% vs. 4/0 Timid Choice Specs Jolteon : 61.8% - 72.8% vs. 0/4 Adamant Leftovers Kingdra : 57% - 67.4% vs. 0/4 Adamant Life Orb Lucario : 150.2% - 177.9% vs. Naive Leftovers Magnezone : 138.8% - 163% vs. Jolly Choice Band Mamoswine : 133% - 156.8% vs. 248/0 Adamant Choice Band Scizor : 56% - 66.5% vs. 168/220 Careful Leftovers Snorlax : 44.1% - 52.5% vs. 252/0 Relaxed Leftovers Swampert : 43.1% - 50.7% vs. 4/0 Jolly Choice Scarf Tyranitar : 187.1% - 221.1% vs. 40/0 Jolly Choice Band Weavile : 251.5% - 296.9% vs. 252/0 Timid Life Orb CAP11 : 89.8% - 105.9% 252 SpA Pokemon +2 Aura Sphere vs. 252/0 Bold Leftovers Blissey : 68.9% - 81% vs. 252/92 Calm Leftovers Empoleon : 140.9% - 166.1% vs. 248/204 Modest Leftovers Heatran : 130.9% - 154.3% vs. 0/4 Naive Choice Scarf Heatran : 206.8% - 244% vs. 4/0 Timid Choice Specs Jolteon : 122.4% - 144.5% vs. 0/4 Adamant Leftovers Kingdra : 113.7% - 134.4% vs. 0/4 Adamant Life Orb Lucario : 301.8% - 356.6% vs. Naive Leftovers Magnezone : 276.2% - 325.3% vs. Jolly Choice Band Mamoswine : 266.5% - 314.1% vs. 248/0 Adamant Choice Band Scizor : 111.4% - 131.2% vs. 168/220 Careful Leftovers Snorlax : 87.5% - 103.8% vs. 252/0 Relaxed Leftovers Swampert : 86.1% - 101.7% vs. 4/0 Jolly Choice Scarf Tyranitar : 371.9% - 438.6% vs. 40/0 Jolly Choice Band Weavile : 500.3% - 591.1% vs. 252/0 Timid Life Orb CAP11 : 178.1% - 210.2% 4 Atk Pokemon Close Combat vs. 252/252 Bold Leftovers Blissey : 71.4% - 84% vs. 168/120 Careful Leftovers Snorlax : 67.2% - 79.1% vs. 252/252 Relaxed Leftovers Swampert : 26.7% - 31.4% 252 Atk Pokemon Close Combat vs. 252/252 Bold Leftovers Blissey : 93.3% - 110.1% vs. 252/160 Calm Leftovers Empoleon : 92.5% - 109.7% vs. 4/0 Timid Choice Specs Jolteon : 102.6% - 120.6% vs. Adamant Leftovers Kingdra : 66.3% - 78.4% vs. Adamant Life Orb Lucario : 175.8% - 207.8% vs. Naive Leftovers Magnezone : 117.4% - 138.8% vs. 0/4 Jolly Choice Band Mamoswine : 121.9% - 144.6% vs. 248/0 Adamant Choice Band Scizor : 53.6% - 63% vs. 168/120 Careful Leftovers Snorlax : 88.3% - 104.2% vs. 252/252 Relaxed Leftovers Swampert : 35.6% - 41.8% 4 Atk Pokemon Sucker Punch vs. 252/0 Jolly Light Clay Azelf : 71.8% - 84.7% vs. 252/220 Bold Leftovers Celebi : 34.2% - 40.6% vs. 252/228 Impish Leftovers Dusknoir : 38.8% - 45.6% vs. 4/0 Timid Leftovers Gengar : 107.6% - 126.7% vs. 252/240 Bold Leftovers Starmie : 46.9% - 56.2% 252 Atk Pokemon Sucker Punch vs. 252/0 Jolly Light Clay Azelf : 93.2% - 110.2% vs. 252/220 Bold Leftovers Celebi : 45% - 53.5% vs. 252/228 Impish Leftovers Dusknoir : 49.7% - 59.2% vs. 4/0 Timid Leftovers Gengar : 142% - 167.2% vs. 252/240 Bold Leftovers Starmie : 61.7% - 72.8% 252 SpA Pokemon Dark Pulse vs. 252/4 Jolly Light Clay Azelf : 106.8% - 126% vs. 252/92 Sassy Leftovers Bronzong : 30.8% - 36.7% vs. 252/0 Bold Leftovers Celebi : 71.3% - 83.7% vs. 252/0 Impish Leftovers Dusknoir : 74.1% - 88.4% vs. 4/0 Timid Leftovers Gengar : 138.2% - 163.4% vs. 252/0 Timid Leftovers Jirachi : 35.6% - 41.6% vs. 252/0 Bold Leftovers Rotom-C : 88.8% - 104.6% vs. 252/0 Bold Leftovers Starmie : 100% - 118.5% 252 SpA Hasty Life Orb Pokemon +2 Dark Pulse vs. 252/4 Jolly Light Clay Azelf : 213.6% - 251.4% vs. 252/92 Sassy Leftovers Bronzong : 62.1% - 72.8% vs. 252/0 Bold Leftovers Celebi : 140.1% - 165.3% vs. 252/0 Impish Leftovers Dusknoir : 149% - 175.5% vs. 4/0 Timid Leftovers Gengar : 274.8% - 323.7% vs. 252/0 Timid Leftovers Jirachi : 69.8% - 82.7% vs. 252/0 Bold Leftovers Rotom-C : 175.7% - 207.2% vs. 252/0 Bold Leftovers Starmie : 200.6% - 237% 252 SpA Pokemon (70bp Ice Special) vs. 208/48 Jolly Leftovers Aerodactyl : 56.1% - 66.3% vs. 12/0 Adamant Toxic Orb Breloom : 94.7% - 112.1% vs. 252/212 Careful Leftovers Dragonite : 64.2% - 76.7% vs. 252/0 Timid Leftovers Flygon : 109.9% - 129.7% vs. 252/196 Jolly Yache Berry Gliscor : 46.9% - 55.4% vs. 252/88 Impish Leftovers Hippowdon : 46.2% - 54.8% vs. 0/4 Timid Leftovers Roserade : 60.5% - 72% vs. 252/0 Timid Leftovers Togekiss : 39.6% - 47.1% vs. 248/228 Calm Leftovers Zapdos : 34.5% - 40.7% 252 SpA Pokemon +2 (70bp Ice Special) vs. 208/48 Jolly Leftovers Aerodactyl : 111.6% - 131.4% vs. 12/0 Adamant Toxic Orb Breloom : 189.4% - 223.5% vs. 252/212 Careful Leftovers Dragonite : 127.5% - 150.3% vs. 252/0 Timid Leftovers Flygon : 218.7% - 258.2% vs. 252/196 Jolly Yache Berry Gliscor : 93.8% - 110.7% vs. 252/88 Impish Leftovers Hippowdon : 91.9% - 108.6% vs. 0/4 Timid Leftovers Roserade : 121.1% - 143.3% vs. 252/0 Timid Leftovers Togekiss : 78.6% - 93% vs. 248/228 Calm Leftovers Zapdos : 67.9% - 80.4%
And now, my view on the reasoning behind our numbers.Code:4/0/0 Life Orb Pokemon vs. 252 Timid Choice Specs Azelf Flamethrower : 50.6% - 59.6% vs. Bold Leftovers Blissey Flamethrower : 17.9% - 21.5% vs. 244 Modest Life Orb Celebi Leaf Storm : 90.4% - 106.7% vs. 196 Rash Life Orb Dragonite Draco Meteor : 86.9% - 102.2% vs. 252 Mild Expert Belt Electivire Thunderbolt : 46.2% - 54.2% vs. 252 Timid Life Orb Gengar Thunderbolt : 45.2% - 53.2% vs. 252 Naive Choice Scarf Heatran Fire Blast : 65.7% - 77.9% vs. 252 Timid Life Orb Infernape Fire Blast : 73.1% - 85.9% vs. 80 Timid Leftovers Jirachi Thunderbolt : 25% - 29.5% vs. 252 Timid Choice Specs Jolteon Thunderbolt : 69.2% - 81.7% vs. 240 Naughty Life Orb Kingdra Draco Meteor : 79.2% - 93.6% vs. 252 Naive Leftovers Magnezone Thunderbolt : 51.9% - 61.5% vs. 252 Timid Focus Sash Roserade Leaf Storm : 74.4% - 87.8% vs. 252 Timid Choice Scarf Rotom-C Thunderbolt : 45.2% - 53.2% vs. 252 Timid Life Orb Starmie Thunderbolt : 37.8% - 44.6% vs. 252 Timid Life Orb Starmie Hydro Pump : 71.2% - 84% vs. 152 Modest Leftovers Togekiss Air Slash : 79.5% - 94.2% vs. 252 Timid Life Orb Zapdos Thunderbolt : 65.7% - 77.9% 252/0/0 Life Orb Pokemon vs. 252 Timid Choice Specs Azelf Flamethrower : 42.2% - 49.7% vs. Bold Leftovers Blissey Flamethrower : 15% - 17.9% vs. 244 Modest Life Orb Celebi Leaf Storm : 75.4% - 89% vs. 196 Rash Life Orb Dragonite Draco Meteor : 72.5% - 85.3% vs. 252 Mild Expert Belt Electivire Thunderbolt : 38.5% - 45.2% vs. 252 Timid Life Orb Gengar Thunderbolt : 37.7% - 44.4% vs. 252 Naive Choice Scarf Heatran Fire Blast : 54.8% - 65% vs. 252 Timid Life Orb Infernape Fire Blast : 61% - 71.7% vs. 80 Timid Leftovers Jirachi Thunderbolt : 20.9% - 24.6% vs. 252 Timid Choice Specs Jolteon Thunderbolt : 57.8% - 68.2% vs. 240 Naughty Life Orb Kingdra Draco Meteor : 66% - 78.1% vs. 252 Naive Leftovers Magnezone Thunderbolt : 43.3% - 51.3% vs. 252 Timid Focus Sash Roserade Leaf Storm : 62% - 73.3% vs. 252 Timid Choice Scarf Rotom-C Thunderbolt : 37.7% - 44.4% vs. 252 Timid Life Orb Starmie Thunderbolt : 31.6% - 37.2% vs. 252 Timid Life Orb Starmie Hydro Pump : 59.4% - 70.1% vs. 152 Modest Leftovers Togekiss Air Slash : 66.3% - 78.6% vs. 252 Timid Life Orb Zapdos Thunderbolt : 54.8% - 65% 4/0/0 Timid Life Orb Pokemon vs. 252 Jolly Focus Sash Aerodactyl Earthquake : 34.6% - 41% vs. 252 Brave Macho Brace Bronzong Earthquake : 34% - 40.1% vs. 252 Adamant Toxic Orb Breloom Focus Punch : 196.8% - 232.7% vs. 52 Adamant Leftovers Dragonite Outrage : 70.2% - 82.7% vs. 36 Mild Expert Belt Electivire Cross Chop : 78.2% - 92.3% vs. 252 Jolly Choice Scarf Flygon Outrage : 59.9% - 71.2% vs. 112 Relaxed Shed Shell Forretress Earthquake : 27.2% - 32.4% vs. 252 Jolly Life Orb Gliscor Earthquake : 62.5% - 74% vs. 252 Adamant Life Orb Gyarados Waterfall : 66.3% - 78.2% vs. 252 Adamant Choice Scarf Heracross Megahorn : 76.9% - 90.4% vs. 124 Adamant Choice Band Hippowdon Earthquake : 80.1% - 94.6% vs. 252 Naive Life Orb Infernape Close Combat : 160.3% - 189.1% vs. 168 Jolly Leftovers Jirachi Fire Punch : 23.4% - 27.9% vs. 252 Adamant Leftovers Kingdra Outrage : 63.8% - 75.3% vs. 252 Adamant Life Orb Lucario ExtremeSpeed : 40.7% - 48.1% vs. 252 Adamant Life Orb Lucario Close Combat : 182.7% - 215.4% vs. 252 Adamant Leftovers Machamp DynamicPunch : 131.4% - 155.8% vs. 252 Jolly Choice Band Mamoswine Earthquake : 89.7% - 106.1% vs. 236 Adamant Choice Band Metagross Earthquake : 67% - 79.2% vs. 252 Adamant Choice Band Scizor U-turn : 69.2% - 81.4% vs. 252 Adamant Choice Band Snorlax Body Slam : 74.4% - 87.8% vs. 252 Jolly Choice Scarf Tyranitar Earthquake : 41% - 48.4% vs. 252 Jolly Choice Band Weavile (80bp Fighting Physical) : 90.4% - 107.1% 252/0/0 Life Orb Pokemon vs. 252 Jolly Focus Sash Aerodactyl Earthquake : 28.9% - 34.2% vs. 252 Brave Macho Brace Bronzong Earthquake : 28.3% - 33.4% vs. 252 Adamant Toxic Orb Breloom Focus Punch : 164.2% - 194.1% vs. 52 Adamant Leftovers Dragonite Outrage : 58.6% - 69% vs. 36 Mild Expert Belt Electivire Cross Chop : 65.2% - 77% vs. 252 Jolly Choice Scarf Flygon Outrage : 50% - 59.4% vs. 112 Relaxed Shed Shell Forretress Earthquake : 22.7% - 27% vs. 252 Jolly Life Orb Gliscor Earthquake : 52.1% - 61.8% vs. 252 Adamant Life Orb Gyarados Waterfall : 55.3% - 65.2% vs. 252 Adamant Choice Scarf Heracross Megahorn : 64.2% - 75.4% vs. 124 Adamant Choice Band Hippowdon Earthquake : 66.8% - 78.9% vs. 252 Naive Life Orb Infernape Close Combat : 133.7% - 157.8% vs. 168 Jolly Leftovers Jirachi Fire Punch : 19.5% - 23.3% vs. 252 Adamant Leftovers Kingdra Outrage : 53.2% - 62.8% vs. 252 Adamant Life Orb Lucario ExtremeSpeed : 34% - 40.1% vs. 252 Adamant Life Orb Lucario Close Combat : 152.4% - 179.7% vs. 252 Adamant Leftovers Machamp DynamicPunch : 109.6% - 129.9% vs. 252 Jolly Choice Band Mamoswine Earthquake : 74.9% - 88.5% vs. 236 Adamant Choice Band Metagross Earthquake : 55.9% - 66% vs. 252 Adamant Choice Band Scizor U-turn : 57.8% - 67.9% vs. 252 Adamant Choice Band Snorlax Body Slam : 62% - 73.3% vs. 252 Jolly Choice Scarf Tyranitar Earthquake : 34.2% - 40.4% vs. 252 Jolly Choice Band Weavile (80bp Fighting Physical) : 75.4% - 89.3%
The 120 Speed is probably the one thing Jibaku and I both wanted extremely. This allows it to outpace Jolly ScarfTar, Aura Sphere and prevent it from causing further damage to Togekiss, especially if you run a Togekiss without Aura Sphere, or Choice-locked on Air Slash. This also puts it above Starmie and Gengar, who both carry extremely strong Thunderbolts (and in the case of Starmie, Hydro Pump), that can pose enough of a threat to 2HKO some Togekiss that don't invest in HP or SpD. What's more is that by having a higher speed than these threats, CAP11 is not forced to rely on the slightly unreliable Sucker Punch, and there is no guarantee it will learn Sucker Punch (not a Type-Move for Dark-types, oddly). That, and the fact that it has a weaker attack means that Sucker Punch may not even guarantee the KO, even on Starmie and Gengar's weaker Defense stat. A follow on to this, is that CAP11 then is not forced to rely on Togekiss' shaky Thunder Wave support, since if we make CAP11 slow, that's two Pokemon below the 90 Speed threshold, making the pair even easier to destroy, as neither will then be able to launch Thunder Waves to support one of the other. It means we can concentrate on having Togekiss passing Nasty Plots to aid CAP11's sweep.
Coming onto that, the subject of power. 100 SpA is equal to the likes of Tyranitar and Starmie. While they seem like powerful attackers (definitely in the case of Starmie, and Tyranitar's Bait Killer set also shouldn't be overlooked), they actually lack the power to OHKO anything significant. And you should also remember they have access to an incredible movepool with near perfect SE coverage, while CAP11 will likely be limited to STAB moves, and with good NEUTRAL coverage. This basically means by itself, CAP11 is not going to be a very effective sweeper, since it is going to miss KOs on quite a few threats it can't hit SE, thus further relying on Togekiss' Nasty Plot to do any significant damage (see: above calcs). The best thing is that anything significant it can't KO, (even with a boost in some cases) are also doing enough damage back to it so that it's going to be put into a difficult situation, as we don't want this core to be unbreakable. Conversely, I wanted Attack to be as useless as possible. My original rough Spread had an Attack stat of 60, as this was just barely enough to 2HOK Blissey and Snorlax with Close Combat. I do not want to see a Physical set becoming plausible, especially if you consider that 100 base SpA with a +2 boost can 2HKO Blissey with Aura Sphere. An attempted mixed attacker set is plausible, perhaps Sucker Punch / 3 Special attacks, as you're probably only using Sucker Punch to KO anything faster, i.e. Azelf, Scarfed stuff and Jolteon. Anything else slower either doesn't pose as much of a threat, or you can dispatch after a Nasty Plot boost.
Bulk-wise, this was actually the part I paid most attention to detail with and that Jibaku and I changed the most often. Quite simple, the job is this - avoid being 2HKOed by anything that threatens Togekiss, make sure it doesn't wall anything at all. UNforunately, that second point was hard to do, due to typing, but we made it weak enough that anything remotely offensive could KO it with the right attack and situation. 95 HP / 95 SpD was a good ballpark, as it could then survive neutral Thunderbolts and such. However, the problem then was making it weaker as to not get too defensive, while balancing the Special Bulk and Physical Bulk. As Deck Knight showed a while ago, any physical offensive attack is either going to flat out KO you or is rare and/or weak. As a result, we could afford a lower Physical Bulk, as then it can just about avoid 2HKOes on Physical Attacks that are weak. But as we said, any physical attack worth thinking about is going to punch CAP11 into next year, so it wasn't that important.
TL;DR - less physical power, more concentrated special bias.
