Doubles BW Suicune

[DaAwesomeDude1]

[SET]
name: Calm Mind
move 1: Scald
move 2: Calm Mind
move 3: Substitute
move 4: Protect
item: Leftovers
ability: Pressure
nature: Bold
evs: 252 HP / 216 Def / 40 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

• Suicune is a defensive wincon that can set up on common Pokemon such as Jellicent and Heatran. Additionally, Suicune's good defensive typing and excellent bulk make it difficult to take down after just one Calm Mind. That said, Suicune is held back by its reliance on Calm Mind, oftentimes doing little if it isn't able to set up. As a result, teams with Suicune are built to exploit certain matchups, making it a harder fit for most teams unlike Jellicent, which offers immediate utility on top of also being a solid defensive wincon.
• Scald is Suicune's most reliable STAB attack, with the potential burn effect facilitating further setup opportunities against physical attackers like Tyranitar and Conkeldurr. Substitute blocks Toxic and allows Suicune to set up easier, since weak neutral attacks, such as Tyranitar's Rock Slide, do not break Suicune's Substitute.
• Leftovers is the preferred item, since Suicune prefers staying on the field for many subsequent turns, therefore benefiting more from the passive healing.
• The EV spread ensures that Life Orb Kingdra's Muddy Water in rain does not break Substitute, with the rest dumped into Defense to allow Suicune to better tank strong physical attacks such as Choice Band Kyurem-B's Fusion Bolt.
• Suicune needs Calm Mind to be effective, so its teammate should focus on removing foes that can deter setup, such as Thundurus and Choice Band Kyurem-B, or Pokemon that wall Suicune, such as Water Absorb Jellicent. Many of the attacks that hit Suicune for massive damage are burst options like Dragon Gem Latios's Draco Meteor. Forcing the opponent to use their boosted attacks on a different Pokemon lets Suicune set up easier in future turns.
• Intimidate users are mandatory next to Suicune, as its effect increases Suicune's bulk and makes it more difficult for foes to take out. Notably, -1 Landorus-T and Tyranitar do not break Substitute with Earthquake and Crunch, respectively. Landorus-T, therefore, is an excellent teammate, capable of weakening physical attackers with Intimidate, threatening Thundurus, and pivoting into Suicune with U-turn for a good setup opportunity. Hitmontop is another good Intimidate user that can facilitate setup opportunities with Fake Out. Heatran beats Grass-types, such as Amoonguss and Ferrothorn, that can deter setup. Gothitelle excels at trapping slower support Pokemon such as Jellicent and Amoonguss, allowing its partner to eliminate them and opening the door for Suicune to win or facilitating further setup opportunities for Suicune by locking the opponent in an unfavorable position.

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[SET]
name: Calm Mind
move 1: Scald
move 2: Calm Mind
move 3: Substitute
move 4: Protect
item: Leftovers
ability: Pressure
nature: Bold
evs: 252 HP / 216 Def / 40 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

• Suicune is a fearsome defensive is it fearsome? its like t4 + it wins from setting up not from being defensive, if you get what i mean wincon that can set up on common metagame Pokemon, such as Jellicent is there no better example than something you can't touch, like maybe gothitelle? and Heatran. Additionally, Suicune's good defensive typing and excellent natural bulk makes it difficult to take down even after just one Calm Mind. That said, Suicune is held back by its reliance on Calm Mind, oftentimes being a dead slot if it isn't able to set up. As a result, teams with Suicune are built around it to exploit certain matchups?, making it a harder fit for most teams unlike Jellicent, which offers immediate utility on top of being a solid defensive wincon.
• Scald is Suicune's most reliable STAB attack with the potential burn effect facilitating further set up opportunities against say Tyranitar or Scrafty. Substitute blocks Toxic and can allows Suicune to set up easier, since weak neutral hits, such as Tyranitar's Rock Slide, does not break Substitute.
• Leftovers is the preferred item since Suicune is difficult to remove i'd phrase it as either "prefers staying on the field for many subsequent turns" or "is difficult to remove from the field", therefore benefiting more from the passive healing.
• The EV spread ensures that Life Orb Kingdra's Muddy Water in rain does not break Substitute while maximizing apparently we're not allowed to say maximizing when its not 252 evs, so change to dumping or completing or whatever Defense to allow Suicune to better tank strong physical attacks, such as Choice Band Kyurem-B's Fusion Bolt.
• Suicune needs Calm Mind to be effective so focus on taking out too much of a you perspective -> so it focuses on taking out etc Pokemon foes that can either deter set up, such as Thundurus and Choice Band Kyurem-B, or Pokemon that walls Suicune, such as Water Absorb Jellicent. Many of the attacks that can hit Suicune for massive damage are burst options, for example like Dragon Gem-boosted Latios Draco Meteor. So, forcing Forcing the opponent to use their Gem-boosted attacks on a different Pokemon can allow lets Suicune to set up easier in future turns.
• Intimidate users are mandatory next to Suicune, as it effectively increases Suicune's bulk and makes it more difficult for the opponent to take out. Notably, -1 Landorus-T and Tyranitar does not break Substitute with Earthquake and Crunch, respectively. Landorus-T, therefore, is an excellent teammate, capable of weakening physical attackers with Intimidate, threatening Thundurus, and pivoting into Suicune with U-turn for a good set up opportunity with U-turn. Hitmontop is another great good Intimidate user that can facilitate set up opportunities with Fake Out. Finally, Gothitelle excels at trapping slower support Pokemon, such as Jellicent and Amoonguss, allowing its partner to eliminate them and opening the door for Suicune to win. Additionally, Gothitelle can trap the opponent into an unfavorable position that can facilitate further set up opportunities for Suicune. heatran kills amoonguss and ferro, latios kills amoonguss and kyube

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[Smudge]

[SET]
name: Calm Mind
move 1: Scald
move 2: Calm Mind
move 3: Substitute
move 4: Protect
item: Leftovers
ability: Pressure
nature: Bold
evs: 252 HP / 216 Def / 40 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

• Suicune is a defensive wincon that can set up on common metagame Pokemon, such as Jellicent and Heatran. Additionally, Suicune's good defensive typing and excellent bulk makes it difficult to take down after just one Calm Mind. That said, Suicune is held back by its reliance on Calm Mind, oftentimes being a dead slot if it isn't able to set up. As a result, teams with Suicune are built to exploit certain matchups, making it a harder fit for most teams unlike Jellicent, which offers immediate utility on top of also being a solid defensive wincon.
• Scald is Suicune's most reliable STAB attack with the potential burn effect facilitating further set up opportunities against physical attackers, such as Tyranitar and Scrafty. Scrafty doesn't feel like the most relevant attacker to mention here. Would prefer something else, maybe KB or Conk Substitute blocks Toxic and allows Suicune to set up easier, since weak neutral hits, such as Tyranitar's Rock Slide, do not break Substitute.
• Leftovers is the preferred item since Suicune prefers staying on the field for many subsequent turns, therefore benefiting more from the passive healing.
• The EV spread ensures that Life Orb Kingdra's Muddy Water in rain does not break Substitute with the rest dumped into Defense to allow Suicune to better tank strong physical attacks, such as Choice Band Kyurem-B's Fusion Bolt.
• Suicune needs Calm Mind to be effective so its teammate should focus on removing foes that can either deter set up, such as Thundurus and Choice Band Kyurem-B, or Pokemon that wall Suicune, such as Water Absorb Jellicent. Many of the attacks that hit Suicune for massive damage are burst options, like Dragon Gem-boosted Latios Draco Meteor. Forcing the opponent to use their Gem-boosted attacks on a different Pokemon lets Suicune set up easier in future turns.
• Intimidate users are mandatory next to Suicune, as it effectively increases Suicune's bulk and makes it more difficult for the opponent to take out. Notably, -1 Landorus-T and Tyranitar does not break Substitute with Earthquake and Crunch, respectively. Landorus-T, therefore, is an excellent teammate, capable of weakening physical attackers with Intimidate, threatening Thundurus, and pivoting into Suicune with U-turn for a good set up opportunity. Hitmontop is another good Intimidate user that can facilitate set up opportunities with Fake Out. Heatran beats Grass-types, such as Amoonguss and Ferrothorn, that can deter setup. Finally, Gothitelle excels at trapping slower support Pokemon, such as Jellicent and Amoonguss, allowing its partner to eliminate them and opening the door for Suicune to win. Additionally, Gothitelle can trap the opponent into an unfavorable position that can facilitate further set up opportunities for Suicune. I think you can combine these last two sentences, but it might go a bit long so see how it looks

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this is great, just a couple little things, 2/2!

 

[DaAwesomeDude1]

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[ken]

1/1 GP Team done
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never get tired of this mon

[SET]
name: Calm Mind
move 1: Scald
move 2: Calm Mind
move 3: Substitute
move 4: Protect
item: Leftovers
ability: Pressure
nature: Bold
evs: 252 HP / 216 Def / 40 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

• Suicune is a defensive wincon that can set up on common metagame Pokemon (rc) such as Jellicent and Heatran. Additionally, Suicune's good defensive typing and excellent bulk makes it difficult to take down after just one Calm Mind. That said, Suicune is held back by its reliance on Calm Mind, oftentimes being a dead slot doing little if it isn't able to set up. As a result, teams with Suicune are built to exploit certain matchups, making it a harder fit for most teams unlike Jellicent, which offers immediate utility on top of also being a solid defensive wincon.
• Scald is Suicune's most reliable STAB attack, (ac) with the potential burn effect facilitating further set up setup opportunities against physical attackers (rc) such as like Tyranitar and Conkeldurr. Substitute blocks Toxic and allows Suicune to set up easier, since weak neutral hits attacks, such as Tyranitar's Rock Slide, do not break Suicune's Substitute.
• Leftovers is the preferred item, (ac) since Suicune prefers staying on the field for many subsequent turns, therefore benefiting more from the passive healing.
• The EV spread ensures that Life Orb Kingdra's Muddy Water in rain does not break Substitute, (ac) with the rest dumped into Defense to allow Suicune to better tank strong physical attacks (rc) such as Choice Band Kyurem-B's Fusion Bolt.
• Suicune needs Calm Mind to be effective, (ac) so its teammate should focus on removing foes that can deter set up setup, (ac) such as Thundurus and Choice Band Kyurem-B, or Pokemon that wall Suicune, such as Water Absorb Jellicent. Many of the attacks that hit Suicune for massive damage are burst options (rc) like Dragon Gem-boosted Latios's Draco Meteor. Forcing the opponent to use their Gem-boosted attacks on a different Pokemon lets Suicune set up easier in future turns.
• Intimidate users are mandatory next to Suicune, as it's effect effectively increases Suicune's bulk and makes it more difficult for the opponent foes to take out. Notably, -1 Landorus-T and Tyranitar does do not break Substitute with Earthquake and Crunch, respectively. Landorus-T, therefore, is an excellent teammate, capable of weakening physical attackers with Intimidate, threatening Thundurus, and pivoting into Suicune with U-turn for a good set up setup opportunity. Hitmontop is another good Intimidate user that can facilitate set up setup opportunities with Fake Out. Heatran beats Grass-types, such as Amoonguss and Ferrothorn, that can deter setup. Gothitelle excels at trapping slower support Pokemon (rc) such as Jellicent and Amoonguss, allowing its partner to eliminate them and opening the door for Suicune to win or facilitate facilitating further set up setup opportunities for Suicune by locking the opponent in an unfavorable position.

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