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[OVERVIEW]

Altaria distinguishes itself from other Defoggers in the tier through its unique Dragon / Flying typing, which allows it to reliably check a variety of threats, including Passimian, Choice Scarf Houndoom, Palossand, and Slowbro. It is also blessed with Natural Cure, allowing it to act as a status sponge for the bulky teams it often finds itself on. Unfortunately, due to Altaria's lack of offensive presence, it is very passive, inviting in fearsome wallbreakers such as Vanilluxe and Whimsicott, which leaves it as a momentum sink on offensive builds. Moreover, this passivity turns Altaria into prime setup bait for bulky setup sweepers that can shrug off Toxic such as Type: Null, Malamar, and Substitute + Bulk Up Braviary. Finally, Altaria can struggle greatly against certain Stealth Rock setters such as Rhydon and Piloswine, as it is weak to Stealth Rock and threatened out by their STAB attacks.

[SET]
name: Defensive Defog
move 1: Defog
move 2: Roost
move 3: Toxic
move 4: Flamethrower
item: Leftovers
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Calm
evs: 252 HP / 168 Def / 72 SpD / 16 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Defog is Altaria's main selling point, allowing it to clear entry hazards to support its teammates. Roost gives Altaria a reliable form of recovery so it can check the threats it's supposed to check. Toxic lets Altaria cripple defensive foes such as Slowbro, Druddigon, and Cryogonal, and it is also Altaria's most consistent form of damage output against Fire- and Water-types such as Incineroar, Houndoom, Delphox, and Samurott. Flamethrower is Altaria's only attacking move, allowing it to reliably beat Steelix and Ferroseed and chip Ice-types that may attempt to switch in like Vanilluxe, Sneasel, and Froslass.

Set Details
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252 HP EVs make Altaria as bulky as possible and minimize the damage taken from Stealth Rock. 168 Defense EVs enable Altaria to avoid the 2HKO from maximum Attack Steelix's Heavy Slam and check Fighting-types such as Passimian and variants of Hariyama lacking Ice Punch. 72 Special Defense EVs alongside a Calm nature ensure that Altaria can check Pokemon like Venusaur, Delphox, Slowbro, and variants of Slowking lacking Ice Beam much more comfortably, and they also let Altaria avoid the 2HKO from Life Orb Venusaur's Sludge Bomb. 16 Speed EVs let Altaria outspeed Flame Orb Hariyama and defensive Garbodor.

Usage Tips
========

Altaria should be brought in against relatively passive Pokemon or Pokemon that can't deal much damage to it, such as Slowbro lacking Ice Beam, Venusaur, Steelix, Slowking, defensive Vaporeon, and Silvally-Steel, and take the chance to Defog away any entry hazards on the field, cripple them with Toxic, or deal decent damage to them with Flamethrower. It can also come in against Fighting-types with relative ease, such as Passimian, Hariyama lacking Ice Punch, Hitmonlee, and Choice Scarf Gallade. Keep Altaria healthy with Roost, as it loses a quarter of its HP every time it has to switch in with Stealth Rock up. You can also use Altaria as a status sponge, as it easily deals with common status inducers like Slowbro, Vaporeon, Silvally-Steel, and Silvally-Water.

Team Options
========

Due to Altaria's glaring 4x weakness to Ice, checks to Vanilluxe, Sneasel, and Cryogonal will be mandatory. Klinklang is a good partner for Altaria, as it can come in semi-well on Diancie, Vanilluxe, Sneasel, and Cryogonal and can force them all out with STAB Gear Grind as well as take the oppurtinity to set up with Shift Gear on the opponent's switch. Klinklang also appreciates Altaria's ability to come in on Steelix and whittle it down. Assault Vest Thick Fat Hariyama tanks Ice-type attacks well, and it can fire off heavy hits to the opponent's team. Fire-types such as Delphox, Emboar, and Houndoom also work well with Altaria, as they can pressure Ice-types heavily. Fairy-resistant Pokemon like Venusaur and Steelix make good partners for Altaria, as they can eliminate Fairy-types like Diancie, Whimsicott, and Aromatisse semi-reliably, alleviating the pressure on Altaria. Fighting-types like Hariyama, Passimian, Scrafty, and Medicham can deal with Rock-types like Gigalith and Rhydon somewhat effectively, and they can also whittle down Diancie. Pokemon weak to Fighting like Sneasel, Heliolisk, Rhydon, Houndoom, and Silvally-Steel appreciate Altaria's ability to come in against the majority of Fighting-types with relative ease. Grass-types such as Venusaur, Whimsicott, and Sceptile can come in against Pokemon that force Altaria out such as Rhydon, Diancie, and Gigalith and either OHKO them or threaten them out.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
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Ice Beam can be used to ease the matchup against Druddigon and Rhydon, but Flamethrower is the better option, as it covers Steelix, Whimsicott, Sneasel, and Vanilluxe much better. Haze sounds good on paper to prevent setup sweepers such as Type: Null, Toxicroak, and Scrafty from sweeping, but Altaria doesn't really have the room to fit Haze in its moveset. Heal Bell is an option to be used on stall; however, like with Haze, Altaria struggles to fit Heal Bell in its moveset, and it's generally outclassed as a cleric by Diancie, Audino, Articuno, and Vileplume.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Ice-types**: Due to Altaria's glaring 4x weakness to Ice-type attacks, Vanilluxe, Sneasel, Cryogonal, Piloswine, Froslass, and Aurorus can all threaten Altaria greatly with their STAB Ice-type attacks and OHKO it with ease.

**Rock-types**: Rock-types such as Diancie, Gigalith, Rhydon, and Omastar can both easily come in against Altaria due to them resisting Flamethrower and Altaria's poor Special Attack, and they can either force it out with their Rock-type STAB attacks or, in Omastar's case, set up with Shell Smash and proceed to sweep.

**Fairy-types**: Diancie can tank any attack from Altaria, heal Toxic poison with Heal Bell, and attack Altaria with a STAB super effective Moonblast to dent it heavily. Whimsicott can deal massive damage to Altaria with Moonblast, KOing it after Stealth Rock damage. Aromatisse can come in and begin to set up with Nasty Plot and Trick Room while threatening Altaria out with Moonblast. Mega Audino can heal any Toxic poison inflicted by Altaria and force it out with Dazzling Gleam.

**Type: Null**: Type: Null is able to come in against Altaria for free and set up with Swords Dance and Iron Defense with ease, as it's unfazed by Toxic thanks to Rest.

**Setup Sweepers**: A lot of setup sweepers that are unbothered by Altaria's moves, such as Malamar, Omastar, Aromatisse, and Vaporeon, can all come in easily against Altaria and proceed to set up. Shed Skin Scrafty can also easily set up on Altaria, not caring about Toxic thanks to Shed Skin and shrugging off Altaria's pitifully weak attacks.
 
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"Natural Cure allows it to act as a status sponge for the bulky teams it often finds itself on." "With Natural Cure, Altaria can disregard status effects from Pokemon like Slowbro." I'd use one of these to replace that line.
  • Mention that it beats Magmortar, something other Defoggers really struggle with.
  • Set details: Instead of a bulletpoint for each specific stat, you could state it like this: "The given EV spread and nature give Altaria enough bulk to..." Item and ability also need to be mentioned in Set details.
  • Usage Tips: Metion something about Altaria being used to toxicstall/1v1 mons cause of roost + natural cure
  • Team Options: Steel types deal with Fairies and appreciate altarias fighting resistance, Grass types appreciate the Fire resistance,
  • Other Options: Specs, Offensive Power Swap, DD Dragonium Z with outrage, eq and roost.
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You could update the threats Altaria can help with because SD Samurott and Accelgor aren't all that common, Palossand and Slowbro are great examples right now.
Sceptile isn't all that relevant now, so remove it.
Since Diancie is NU now, you should give it a strong mention in C&C, since it's one of the most threatening Pokemon for Altaria currently.

looks good, just needs to be a little more up to date QC 2/3
 

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replace samurott mention in the bit about toxic with another water-type, relevancy and such.

venu isn't really 'passive' (assuming you mean offensive variants and not spdef variants), so make sure you specify that it's more that it cannot deal a lot of damage to altaria if something else is asleep.

specify that klinklang can come in on non-earth power variants of diancie well.

there's an emboar mention in team options.

i feel like you could cut down on the amount of examples you provide at certain points, like the bit about pokemon that are weak to fighting, though that might just be nitpicking or w/e.

when you mention audino in c&c, there's nothing else following its name.

mention shed skin scrafty in the bit about 'setup sweepers' in c&c.

good work, 3/3. look this over before sending to gp, i noticed a few errors in spelling and sentence structure and all.
 
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[OVERVIEW]

Altaria distinguishes itself from other Defoggers in the tier through it's its unique Dragon / Flying typing, (AC) which allows it to reliably check a variety of threats, (AC) including Passimian, Choice Scarf Houndoom, Palossand, and Slowbo Slowbro. It is also blessed with Natural Cure, allowing it to act as a status sponge for the bulky teams it often finds itself on. Unfortunately, due to Altaria's lack of offensive presence, it is very passive, inviting in fearsome wallbreakers such as Vanilluxe and Whimsicott, (AC) which leaves it as a momentum sap sink on offensive builds. Moreover, this passivity turns Altaria into prime setup bait for bulk win conditions bulky setup sweepers that can shrug off Toxic such as Type: Null, Malamar, and Sub Subsitute + Bulk Up Braviary which can easily set up on it and avoid or heal off Toxic. Finally, Altaria can struggle greatly against certain Stealth Rock setters including such as Rhydon and Piloswine, (AC) as it is weak to their STAB moves and takes 25% every time it has to switch into their hazard Stealth Rock and threatened out by their STAB attacks.

[SET]
name: Defensive Defog
move 1: Defog
move 2: Roost
move 3: Toxic
move 4: Flamethrower
item: Leftovers
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Calm
evs: 248 HP / 168 Def / 76 SpD / 16 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Defog is Altaria's main selling point, it allows allowing it to clear all hazards off all hazards on the field entry hazards to support it's its teammates. Roost gives Altaria a reliable form of recovery, (RC) and increasing its longevity to so it can check the threats it's supposed to check. Toxic lets Altaria cripple defensive foes such as Slowbro, Druddigon, (AC) and Cryogonal, as well as being it's and it is also Altaria's most consistent form of damage output against Fire- and Water-types such as Incineroar, Houndoom, Delphox, and Samurott. Flamethrower is Altaria's only attacking move. It allows move, allowing it to reliably beat Steelix and Ferroseed, (RC) as well as and chip Ice-types that may attempt to switch in like Vanilluxe, Sneasel, and Froslass.

Set Details
========

248 HP investment allows EVs make Altaria to become as bulky as possible while minimizing and minimize the damage taken from Stealth Rock. 168 Defense EVs enables enable Altaria to avoid the 2HKO from a max Attack Heavy slam from Steelix, whilst giving it enough defense to maximum Attack Steelix's Heavy Slam and check Fighting-types such as Passimian and variants of Hariyama lacking Ice Punch. 76 Special Defense EVs alongside a Calm nature ensures ensure that Altaria can check Pokemon like Venusaur, Delphox, Slowbro, and variants of Slowking lacking Ice Beam much more comfortably, also dodging and they also let Altaria avoid the 2HKO from a Life Orb Venusaur's Sludge Bomb. 16 Speed EVs lets let Altaria outspeed Flame Orb Hariyama and Defensive defensive Garbodor.

Usage Tips
========

Altaria should be brought in against relatively passive Pokemon or Pokemon that can't deal much damage to it, such as Slowbro lacking Ice beam Beam, Venusaur, Steelix, Slowking, defesnive Vaporeon, and Silvally-Steel, (AC) and either take the chance to Defog away any entry hazards on the field, cripple them with Toxic, or deal decent damage to them with Flamethrower. It can also come in against Fighting-types with relative ease, such as Passimian, Hariyama lacking Ice Punch, Hitmonlee, and Choice Scarf Gallade. Keep Altaria healthy with Roost, (AC) as it loses a quarter of it's its HP every time it has to switch onto the field in with Stealth Rock up. You can also use Altaria as a status sponge, as it easily deals with common status users inducers like Slowbro, Vaporeon, Silvally-Steel, and Silvally-Water.

Team Options
========

Due to Altaria's glaring 4x weakness to Ice, checks to Vanilluxe, Sneasel, (AC) and Cryogonal will be mandatory. Klinklang is a good partner for Altaria, as it can come in semi-well on Diancie, Vanilluxe, Sneasel, and Cryogonal and can all force them all out with STAB Gear Grind, and Klinklang can take the oppurtinity to setup set up with Shift Gear on the opponents opponent's switch. Klinklang also appreciates Altaria's ability to come in on Steelix and whittle it down. Assault Vest Thick Fat Hariyama tanks Ice-type attacks well, and it can fire off heavy hits to the opponents opponent's team. Fire-types such as Delphox, Emboar, and Houndoom also work well with Altaria, as they can pressure Ice-types heavily such as, Delphox, Emboar, Houndoom. (AP) Fairy-resistant Pokemon like Venusaur and Steelix make good parterns partners for Altaria, as they can eliminate Fairy-types like Diancie, Whimsicott, (AC) and Aromatisse semi-reliabley semi-reliably, alleviating the pressure on Altaria. Fighting-types like Hariyama, Passimian, Scrafty, and Medicham can deal with Rock-types like Gigalith and Rhydon somewhat effectively, and they can also whittle down Diancie. Pokemon weak to Fighting-types Fighting like Sneasel, Heliolisk, Rhydon, Houndoom, (AC) and Silvally-steel appreaciate Altaria being able Silvally-Steel appreciate Altaria's ability to come in against the majority of Fighting-types with relative ease. Grass types Grass-types such as Venusaur, Whimsicott, and Scpetile can come in against Pokemon that force Altaria out such as Rhydon, Diancie, and Gigalith, (RC) and either OHKO it them or threaten it them out.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Ice Beam can be used to ease the matchup against Druddigon and Rhydon matchup, but, (RC) Flamethrower is the better option, (AC) as it covers Steelix, Whimsicott, Sneasel, and Vanilluxe much better. Haze sounds good on paper to prevent set up setup sweepers such as Type: Null, Toxicroak, or and Scrafty from sweeping, but Altaria doesn't really have the room to fit Haze in it's its moveset. Heal Bell is an option to be used on stall, (RC) but; (ASC) however, (AC) like with Haze, it Altaria struggles to fit Heal Bell in it's its moveset, and it's generally outclassed as a cleric by Diancie, Audino, Articuno, or and Vileplume.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Ice-types**: Due to Altaria's glaring 4x weakness to Ice-type attacks, Vanilluxe, Sneasel, Cryogonal, Piloswine, Froslass, and Aurorus can all threaten Altaria greatly with their STAB Ice-type attacks and can all OHKO Altaria it with ease.

**Rock-types**: Rock-types such as Diancie, Gigalith, Rhydon, (AC) and Omastar can both easily come in against Altaria due to them resisting Flamethrower and Altaria's poor special attack Special Attack, and they can either force it out with their Rock-type STAB attacks, (RC) or, begin to in Omastar's case, (AC) set up with Shell Smash and proceed to sweep.

**Fairy-types**: Diance Diancie can tank any attack from Altaria, can heal Toxic poison with Heal Bell, or and attack Altaria with a STAB super-effective super effective Moonblast to dent Altaria it heavily. Whimsicott can deal massive damage to Altaria with STAB Moonblast, KOing it after Stealth Rock damage. Aromatisse can come in and begin to set up Nasty Plots with Nasty Plot and Trick Room, (RC) while threatining threatening Altaria out with STAB Moonblast. Mega Audino can heal any status infliction Altaria throws it's way, and can any Toxic poison inflicted by Altaria and force it out with STAB Dazzling Gleam.

**Type: Null**: Type: Null is able to come in against Altaria for free and begin to set up with Swords Dance or and Iron Defence Defense with ease, as it's unaffcted unfazed by Toxic thanks to Rest.

**Set-up sweepers Setup Sweepers**" A lot of set-up setup sweepers that are unbothered by Altaria's Flamethrower as well as Toxic, making it so Pokemon moves, (AC) such as Malamar, Omastar, Aromatisse, and Vaporeon, (AC) can all come in easily against Altaria and proceed to set up. Shed Skin Scrafty can also easily set up on Altaria, not caring about Toxics Toxic thanks to Shed Skin or and shrugging off Altaria's pitifully weak attacks.

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[OVERVIEW]

Altaria distinguishes itself from other Defoggers in the tier through its unique Dragon / Flying typing, which allows it to reliably check a variety of threats, including Passimian, Choice Scarf Houndoom, Palossand, and Slowbro. It is also blessed with Natural Cure, allowing it to act as a status sponge for the bulky teams it often finds itself on. Unfortunately, due to Altaria's lack of offensive presence, it is very passive, inviting in fearsome wallbreakers such as Vanilluxe and Whimsicott, which leaves it as a momentum sink on offensive builds. Moreover, this passivity turns Altaria into prime setup bait for bulky setup sweepers that can shrug off Toxic such as Type: Null, Malamar, and Subsitute Substitute + Bulk Up Braviary. Finally, Altaria can struggle greatly against certain Stealth Rock setters such as Rhydon and Piloswine, as it is weak to Stealth Rock and threatened out by their STAB attacks.

[SET]
name: Defensive Defog
move 1: Defog
move 2: Roost
move 3: Toxic
move 4: Flamethrower
item: Leftovers
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Calm
evs: 248 HP / 168 Def / 76 SpD / 16 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Defog is Altaria's main selling point, allowing it to clear entry hazards to support its teammates. Roost gives Altaria a reliable form of recover recovery so it can check the threats it's supposed to check. Toxic lets Altaria cripple defensive foes such as Slowbro, Druddigon, and Cryogonal, and it is also Altaria's most consistent form of damage output against Fire- and Water-types such as Incineroar, Houndoom, Delphox, and Samurott. Flamethrower is Altaria's only attacking move, allowing it to reliably beat Steelix and Ferroseed and chip Ice-types that may attempt to switch in like Vanilluxe, Sneasel, and Froslass.

Set Details
========

248 HP EVs make Altaria as bulky as possible and minimize the damage taken from Stealth Rock. (altaria's max HP isn't divisible by 4, just do max) 168 Defense EVs enable Altaria to avoid the 2HKO from maximum Attack Steelix's Heavy Slam and check Fighting-types such as Passimian and variants of Hariyama lacking Ice Punch. 76 Special Defense EVs alongside a Calm nature ensure that Altaria can check Pokemon like Venusaur, Delphox, Slowbro, and variants of Slowking lacking Ice Beam much more comfortably, and they also let Altaria avoid the 2HKO from Life Orb Venusaur's Sludge Bomb. 16 Speed EVs let Altaria outspeed Flame Orb Hariyama and defensive Garbodor.

Usage Tips
========

Altaria should be brought in against relatively passive Pokemon or Pokemon that can't deal much damage to it, such as Slowbro lacking Ice Beam, Venusaur, Steelix, Slowking, defesnive defensive Vaporeon, and Silvally-Steel, and take the chance to Defog away any entry hazards on the field, cripple them with Toxic, or deal decent damage to them with Flamethrower. It can also come in against Fighting-types with relative ease, such as Passimian, Hariyama lacking Ice Punch, Hitmonlee, and Choice Scarf Gallade. Keep Altaria healthy with Roost, as it loses a quarter of its HP every time it has to switch in with Stealth Rock up. You can also use Altaria as a status sponge, as it easily deals with common status inducers like Slowbro, Vaporeon, Silvally-Steel, and Silvally-Water.

Team Options
========

Due to Altaria's glaring 4x weakness to Ice, checks to Vanilluxe, Sneasel, and Cryogonal will be mandatory. Klinklang is a good partner for Altaria, as it can come in semi-well on Diancie, Vanilluxe, Sneasel, and Cryogonal and can force them all out with STAB Gear Grind, and Klinklang can as well as take the oppurtinity to set up with Shift Gear on the opponent's switch. Klinklang also appreciates Altaria's ability to come in on Steelix and whittle it down. Assault Vest Thick Fat Hariyama tanks Ice-type attacks well, and it can fire off heavy hits to the opponent's team. Fire-types such as Delphox, Emboar, and Houndoom also work well with Altaria, as they can pressure Ice-types heavily. Fairy-resistant Pokemon like Venusaur and Steelix make good partners for Altaria, as they can eliminate Fairy-types like Diancie, Whimsicott, and Aromatisse semi-reliably, alleviating the pressure on Altaria. Fighting-types like Hariyama, Passimian, Scrafty, and Medicham can deal with Rock-types like Gigalith and Rhydon somewhat effectively, and they can also whittle down Diancie. Pokemon weak to Fighting like Sneasel, Heliolisk, Rhydon, Houndoom, and Silvally-Steel appreciate Altaria's ability to come in against the majority of Fighting-types with relative ease. Grass-types such as Venusaur, Whimsicott, and Scpetile Sceptile can come in against Pokemon that force Altaria out such as Rhydon, Diancie, and Gigalith and either OHKO them or threaten them out.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Ice Beam can be used to ease the matchup against Druddigon and Rhydon, but Flamethrower is the better option, as it covers Steelix, Whimsicott, Sneasel, and Vanilluxe much better. Haze sounds good on paper to prevent setup sweepers such as Type: Null, Toxicroak, and Scrafty from sweeping, but Altaria doesn't really have the room to fit Haze in its moveset. Heal Bell is an option to be used on stall; however, like with Haze, Altaria struggles to fit Heal Bell in its moveset, and it's generally outclassed as a cleric by Diancie, Audino, Articuno, and Vileplume.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Ice-types**: Due to Altaria's glaring 4x weakness to Ice-type attacks, Vanilluxe, Sneasel, Cryogonal, Piloswine, Froslass, and Aurorus can all threaten Altaria greatly with their STAB Ice-type attacks and OHKO it with ease.

**Rock-types**: Rock-types such as Diancie, Gigalith, Rhydon, and Omastar can both easily come in against Altaria due to them resisting Flamethrower and Altaria's poor Special Attack, and they can either force it out with their Rock-type STAB attacks or, in Omastar's case, set up with Shell Smash and proceed to sweep.

**Fairy-types**: Diancie can tank any attack from Altaria, heal Toxic poison with Heal Bell, and attack Altaria with a STAB super effective Moonblast to dent it heavily. Whimsicott can deal massive damage to Altaria with Moonblast, KOing it after Stealth Rock damage. Aromatisse can come in and begin to set up with Nasty Plot and Trick Room while threatening Altaria out with Moonblast. Mega Audino can heal any Toxic poison inflicted by Altaria and force it out with Dazzling Gleam.

**Type: Null**: Type: Null is able to come in against Altaria for free and set up with Swords Dance and Iron Defense with ease, as it's unfazed by Toxic thanks to Rest.

**Setup Sweepers**: A lot of setup sweepers that are unbothered by Altaria's moves, such as Malamar, Omastar, Aromatisse, and Vaporeon, can all come in easily against Altaria and proceed to set up. Shed Skin Scrafty can also easily set up on Altaria, not caring about Toxic thanks to Shed Skin and shrugging off Altaria's pitifully weak attacks.
 
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