5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - Latest: RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0

[thetorsoboy]

I'm trying to use the non-C Gear method. I get the IVs, do the time right, and etc., but I never can get any results. None.

I don't get what I'm doing wrong. I have the Mac Adress, Pokemon Black (English) set, a DS Lite, the time: 4:41:05, the date: 04/05/11: and the IVs down.

Anyone? I'd like to know so I can get started abusing B/W. ^.^

 

[Dizzyed]

I'm gonna take a stab at this, I believe you can go into the time finder and set the method to Method 5 PIDRNG. Then make the min frame 60 and the max frame 70, you'll get a bunch of seeds with shinies a few frames away from your starting frame (which is 40-60). So just hit one of those seeds and advance the frame, via saving or chatot, and you should get a shiny.

That's the thing, how can you change what starter frame you are on when you load the game? Mine is usually 600+. Unless it has something to do with the DS parameters being set every time. In which case I will facepalm for myself.

 

[Explotic]

Anyone? I'd like to know so I can get started abusing B/W. ^.^

Try finding your parameters again, the timer0 you got may be one that appears less frequent. You're starting the game 1-2sec(depending on your actual second result) before the seed time right?

That's the thing, how can you change what starter frame you are on when you load the game? Mine is usually 600+. Unless it has something to do with the DS parameters being set every time. In which case I will facepalm for myself.

As long as no moving npcs are around and you don't move at all, you're starting PID frame will be between 40-60.

Edit: And I think no weather effects.

 

[IkEr_14]

That sounds confusing. Do I have to know my starting PID to breed shinies?

All you need is to check in wich frame you usally land when using the seed you choose to capture, breed shinies etc, only for this seed, because the landing frame change with each seed. When you are absolutly sure in wich frame you land(PIDNRG) procced to advance the frame for your target.

 

[Toast++]

Anyone? I'd like to know so I can get started abusing B/W. ^.^

That happened to me quite a few times when I was finding mine even though I knew the parameters ahead of time and I knew the actual seed I hit, not just IVs. We're not exactly sure what happens there.

That sounds confusing. Do I have to know my starting PID to breed shinies?

It'll be difficult otherwise because you're kind of taking a shot in the dark. Unless there's another method I don't know about..

Edit:The initial advancements will always be the same for any particular seed. It's just a matter of finding out what that frame is. That's why I suggested doing it that way. The only other way I know of is to be able to see what the PID is. And that's not going to work for most people.

 

[MMX]

I wanna attempt to breed an HP Electric shiny Timid Panpour. Here are the IVs of the parents.

Timid Panpour: 4 / 20 / 8 / 14 / 25 / 31
Timid Ditto: 31 / 31 / 31 / 30 / 31 / 31

Seed: F379B7BB4AD40B69
Date: 4 / 16 / 2011
Time: 18:31:04
KeyPress: Right
Frame: 35
IVs: 31 / 31 / 31 / 30 / 31 / 31

So I would:
1. Grab the parents and put them into the daycare with an Everstone on Ditto and the Power Anklet and Panpour and bike around til an egg comes.
2. Save inside the daycare, hit your seed, do your advancements, and walk outside holding L and mashing A as fast as possible.
3. Collect the egg, hatch it, and check the IVs.

If they're not right, how do I go about finding what frame I hit and how far I have to go to get the desired results?

 

[Dizzyed]

Try finding your parameters again, the timer0 you got may be one that appears less frequent. You're starting the game 1-2sec(depending on your actual second result) before the seed time right?



As long as no moving npcs are around and you don't move at all, you're starting PID frame will be between 40-60.

Edit: And I think no weather effects.

Does that old guy in the 3rd floor of that cave where coballion is count as a moving NPC? And if this is true how would you breed shinies as there are moving NPCs all around the daycare?

I do appreciate your help.

 

[Explotic]

Does that old guy in the 3rd floor of that cave where coballion is count as a moving NPC? And if this is true how would you breed shinies as there are moving NPCs all around the daycare?

I do appreciate your help.

I know for a fact that the old guy doesn't interfere with the PID since I rng'ed a cobalion today (he doesn't move anyway). I don't recall any of those outdoor daycare npcs moving but if they do, then I'm not sure how people rng breed.

Edit: Or they may grab the egg immediately before any npc is supposed to turn by doing all the advancements inside.

 

[Nightmare13]

Start at the menu screen and don't stop until the copyright screen. It's best if you can hold down the button and use the touch screen to start the game.

@Megaman
I was using an emulator to check what the starting frame would be. Another way would be to keep catching something frame by frame and match up the natures.

So battles don't advance the PIDRNG by more than 1? I tried that before and couldn't find a series of natures that matched, but I may have missed my seed. I didn't try too hard.

 

[Dizzyed]

Then maybe I am not looking hard enough for my nature pattern. I double check each time so I am sure the natures aren't wrong.

 

[Explotic]

Then maybe I am not looking hard enough for my nature pattern. I double check each time so I am sure the natures aren't wrong.

If you mean for Cobalion, make sure you save right infront of him facing him. What seed are you using? and what natures are u getting?

 

[IkEr_14]

I wanna attempt to breed an HP Electric shiny Timid Panpour. Here are the IVs of the parents.

Timid Panpour: 4 / 20 / 8 / 14 / 25 / 31
Timid Ditto: 31 / 31 / 31 / 30 / 31 / 31

Seed: F379B7BB4AD40B69
Date: 4 / 16 / 2011
Time: 18:31:04
KeyPress: Right
Frame: 35
IVs: 31 / 31 / 31 / 30 / 31 / 31

So I would:
1. Grab the parents and put them into the daycare with an Everstone on Ditto and the Power Anklet and Panpour and bike around til an egg comes.
2. Save inside the daycare, hit your seed, do your advancements, and walk outside holding L and mashing A as fast as possible.
3. Collect the egg, hatch it, and check the IVs.

If they're not right, how do I go about finding what frame I hit and how far I have to go to get the desired results?

Frame 35 is too early because normally all the frames start from 40-60(PIDRNG), the everstone It's ok but I don't know about the power anklet for me It's more difficult to know in wich frame the egg landed because the Power Anlket maybe maybe not inherit ivs.
The first egg is always frame 8(IVRNG), You need to advance the IVRNG too if your egg is not in frame 8, and of course advance the PIDRNG with saving or with a chatot in the house before you grab the egg.
I don't understand the part of holding the L button all you need is to go outside and grab the egg as fast as possible. You need to hold the button when you start the game when it says nintendo to land in the correct seed.
Hope I help you

 

[MMX]

The L button part was a typo. I meant to hold left on the DPad as I was exiting the house.

Speaking of the keypress, would I hold the R bumper or actually hold the right side of the DPad to hit my seed?

 

[thetorsoboy]

I keep getting no results, I guess just keep trying?

 

[Toast++]

So battles don't advance the PIDRNG by more than 1? I tried that before and couldn't find a series of natures that matched, but I may have missed my seed. I didn't try too hard.

Sorry, I guess I should be a little more clear. Check the natures by starting your game up several times with the same seed and saving once more each time than the previous time to advance the frame. A battle advances the PID frame by more than 1.

 

[religiousjedi]

May be a bit out there, but...is there a way to accurately predict an encounter with a certain Pokemon? I'm trying to encounter a Mienfoo with Regenerator outside of Dragonspiral Tower...

 

[IcyFlame05]

What is wrong with this game. Why do i keep getting the Same Timer0 for one pokemon and a different Timer0 for another; It never changes even when i change spreads.

 

[Nightmare13]

Sorry, I guess I should be a little more clear. Check the natures by starting your game up several times with the same seed and saving once more each time than the previous time to advance the frame. A battle advances the PID frame by more than 1.

Ah understood. I knew the IVRNG advanced rapidly during battles but the thread didn't specify anything about the PIDRNG. Thanks.

 

[IkEr_14]

The L button part was a typo. I meant to hold left on the DPad as I was exiting the house.

Speaking of the keypress, would I hold the R bumper or actually hold the right side of the DPad to hit my seed?

The right side of the Dpad, and about how do I go about finding what frame I hit and how far I have to go to get the desired results? You need to check first without advancement in wich frame you obtain your egg by hatching it and checking the nature, the ability and gender, compare all these with the frames from 40 to 60 and make note in wich PID was all the info you obtain, then repeat the procces but now make only one advance to the frame(PIDRNG), repeat now with 2 advances then with 3. Do this about 5 times, now you can check in wich frame you usually land.
And yeah thanks for the help

 

[Tirade]

So does the "step" you take to exit the house (when going after Thundurus) count as one of the 128 steps? I just want to make sure I am doing it right. I haven't went after a Roamer yet.

This might have gotten lost in the shuffle. I know it sounds basic, but I want to make sure.

 

[hoiboy]

Do Cobalion and co. count as Legendaries or Stationary pokemon? I'm really confused here O.o

 

[Slashmolder]

Starting to be a bit confused about the Roaming pokemon.
Seed: E34372AEC338171C
Frame: 2
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
KeyPresses: X
Time: 6/23/2011 9:51:22 AM
Timer0: C7B

No matter what I do I'm constantly getting these IVs: 30/7/24/7/29/11

I've saved right inside the house after talking with the lady. Take exactly 128 steps with 1 pokemon in my party. Talk to Tornadus and then fly about until I catch him. Then I check IVs with rare candies. I find it really weird that I'm hitting exactly the same wrong seed each and every time.

 

[BlueSuperSonic1]

@ hoiboy
What do you mean? There is no section for legendary Pokemon on RNG Reporter and all Stationary Pokemon are generally generated the same way.

 

[Nightmare13]

This might have gotten lost in the shuffle. I know it sounds basic, but I want to make sure.

The frame won't advance if you take an extra step—it only advances for every 128 steps. So as long as you take at least 128 steps inside the house (and less than say 255) you'll still hit the same frame.

 

[voodoo pimp]

Is there a RNG program that works on Linux? I'd like to work on it during my free time at school, but my laptop has issues with Windows.

If it matters, I'm currently running Ubuntu 9.10, but I'm long overdue for an upgrade anyway.