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The PU Council has decided to Suspect Test Vivillon after the most recent survey!!
First gracing PU with its presence earlier this generation, Vivillon was a force to be reckoned with in PU that was eventually kicked out of the metagame. Now, 7 months and an unban later, the butterfly is back to being a contentious issue. It has everything to work well; Compound Eyes in conjunction with Sleep Powder and Hurricane make Vivillon a formidable Quiver Dance sweeper. That move in particular is what makes it go from bad Pokémon to terrifying sweeper. In a tier lacking in Steel-types, Vivillon can use its tools to get past the little specially defensive Pokémon we have, such as Muk and Articuno. Even defensive options such as Naclstack and Probopass that should fair better against it thanks to their typings are vulnerable to the right Tera types. Despite its bad bulk, its toolkit means it can find setup opportunities and pause a bigger threat to would-be answers. The aforementioned Sleep Powder is particuliarly important to this point; with some luck, not much is safe. The unpredectibility of its Tera type as well as last move options such as Substitute, Tera Blast, Bug Buzz allow Vivillon to be dominant in its interactions, demanding careful maneuvering. Lastly, it's also possible to argue that Vivillon is inherently uncompetitive; Sleep Powder and Hurricane are both moves that can very easily take the game out of the players's hands
Despite this, Vivillon has a myriad of issues both offensively and defensively. Offensively, it relies on Tera a lot to get past its answers while also being slightly on the weaker side, meaning it often requires multiple boosts to properly sweep through a game. This reliance on Tera and Sleep Powder overall makes it a very unreliable Pokémon that requires a lot to go its way; with a sleep sack, or without the right amount of Sleep turns, Vivillon can be pretty helpless vs defensive staples like Muk and Chansey. Defensively, its terrible bulk means it's very possible to stop in its tracks and prevent setup opportunities. Even when it does find opportunities, it's slower than many of our Choice Scarf users like Rotom, Swanna, Morpeko, Indeedee, and Hisuian-Sneasel, while priority users such as Sneasel and Basculin can pick off a weakened Vivillon without much issue. The same way it can abuse Tera, it's very vulnerable to Pokémon flipping the script on it due to often dying to even unresisted attacks. This makes it very reliant on Sleep Powder to find setup opportunities, something that is often easy to see coming.
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Important: For this suspect, there will be two ways to qualify. The first is the typical laddering period, where players must reach the minimum GXE. The second is by winning a live suspect tournament, to be held in the Smogon PU Room on Pokemon Showdown!. You may compete in the suspect tournament on any account, and will need to post proof of you winning the suspect tournament on the voter ID thread.
Live suspect tournaments times will be edited in shortly, expect an update post!
The voting requirements are a minimum GXE of 78 with at least 50 games played. In addition, you may play 1 less game for every 0.2 GXE you have above 78 GXE, down to a minimum of 30 games at a GXE of 82. As always, needing more than 50 games to 78 GXE is fine.
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The PU Council has decided to Suspect Test Vivillon after the most recent survey!!
First gracing PU with its presence earlier this generation, Vivillon was a force to be reckoned with in PU that was eventually kicked out of the metagame. Now, 7 months and an unban later, the butterfly is back to being a contentious issue. It has everything to work well; Compound Eyes in conjunction with Sleep Powder and Hurricane make Vivillon a formidable Quiver Dance sweeper. That move in particular is what makes it go from bad Pokémon to terrifying sweeper. In a tier lacking in Steel-types, Vivillon can use its tools to get past the little specially defensive Pokémon we have, such as Muk and Articuno. Even defensive options such as Naclstack and Probopass that should fair better against it thanks to their typings are vulnerable to the right Tera types. Despite its bad bulk, its toolkit means it can find setup opportunities and pause a bigger threat to would-be answers. The aforementioned Sleep Powder is particuliarly important to this point; with some luck, not much is safe. The unpredectibility of its Tera type as well as last move options such as Substitute, Tera Blast, Bug Buzz allow Vivillon to be dominant in its interactions, demanding careful maneuvering. Lastly, it's also possible to argue that Vivillon is inherently uncompetitive; Sleep Powder and Hurricane are both moves that can very easily take the game out of the players's hands
Despite this, Vivillon has a myriad of issues both offensively and defensively. Offensively, it relies on Tera a lot to get past its answers while also being slightly on the weaker side, meaning it often requires multiple boosts to properly sweep through a game. This reliance on Tera and Sleep Powder overall makes it a very unreliable Pokémon that requires a lot to go its way; with a sleep sack, or without the right amount of Sleep turns, Vivillon can be pretty helpless vs defensive staples like Muk and Chansey. Defensively, its terrible bulk means it's very possible to stop in its tracks and prevent setup opportunities. Even when it does find opportunities, it's slower than many of our Choice Scarf users like Rotom, Swanna, Morpeko, Indeedee, and Hisuian-Sneasel, while priority users such as Sneasel and Basculin can pick off a weakened Vivillon without much issue. The same way it can abuse Tera, it's very vulnerable to Pokémon flipping the script on it due to often dying to even unresisted attacks. This makes it very reliant on Sleep Powder to find setup opportunities, something that is often easy to see coming.
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Important: For this suspect, there will be two ways to qualify. The first is the typical laddering period, where players must reach the minimum GXE. The second is by winning a live suspect tournament, to be held in the Smogon PU Room on Pokemon Showdown!. You may compete in the suspect tournament on any account, and will need to post proof of you winning the suspect tournament on the voter ID thread.
Live suspect tournaments times will be edited in shortly, expect an update post!
The voting requirements are a minimum GXE of 78 with at least 50 games played. In addition, you may play 1 less game for every 0.2 GXE you have above 78 GXE, down to a minimum of 30 games at a GXE of 82. As always, needing more than 50 games to 78 GXE is fine.
GXE | minimum games |
78 | 50 |
78.2 | 49 |
78.4 | 48 |
78.6 | 47 |
78.8 | 46 |
79 | 45 |
79.2 | 44 |
79.4 | 43 |
79.6 | 42 |
79.8 | 41 |
80 | 40 |
80.2 | 39 |
80.4 | 38 |
80.6 | 37 |
80.8 | 36 |
81 | 35 |
81.2 | 34 |
81.4 | 33 |
81.6 | 32 |
81.8 | 31 |
82 | 30 |
Suspect information:
- There will be no draws allowed for any potential qualifiers. If you qualify with draws, your suspect requirements will not count, and you will not be allowed to vote. There is no way to actively enforce ties to prevent abuse, so they will be disallowed. Use stall at your own risk.
- All games must be played on the Pokémon Showdown! PU ladder on a new alt with the following format: "PUVL (nickname)”. For example, PUVL gum or PUVL shitar.
- Do NOT impersonate other people in your ladder alt, do NOT use any usernames which are offensive, flame-baiting, or targeting specific users, and do NOT use usernames which could be interpreted as breaking any of the username rules on Pokémon Showdown! Failure to abide to this will result in you being barred from voting in this suspect, and potential infractions.
- The suspect test will last for 13 days, ending on Saturday, November 25th 11:59pm -5.
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