"One last batch of wonder boxing" <- Man lying to himself
"I'll NEVER try to fill in any of the Go Pokedex in Home" <- Statements made weeks before disaster
I don't have breakdowns because there's too many Pokemon at this point. But that's okay, because I do have a google sheet for you to peruse!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WNt_zH6o9EyEpPjJnwfBCpUAmcqB8Vqvaf5OLf9PqB4/edit?usp=sharing
I wound up doing another nearly 600 trades, so there's 947 in total. I will say, though, that while I got a lot of the "usual suspects" there was quite a bit of variety in terms of Ball, Origin, species and rarity. I even got a shiny Chespin (from Go), which is one of my favorite shinies.
In particular, a Go Lugia caught my eye.
Perhaps a bit too much. See, during my initial undocumented wonder boxing, I kept coming across a bunch of Go Pokemon and it was filling up the dex a little but I noticed a lot of them were unevolved...so what if I just started....evolving them....
And so I did. Since all Home cares about is "are they from Go" and "did they touch your Home profile", you can amass quite the collection if you're willing to shuffle between a bunch of games.
And the Wonder Box was a massive way to get even more and more of the things! People love dumping their spares into Home and then Wonder Box, so even uncommon, rare or regional stuff can often crop up over a large enough sample size. This is also the only way to get "Go" marked Paldean evolutions, which is fun.
But back to the Lugia though. See I never really want to burn my own Legendary Pokemon, but this was effectively "free". And I had seen a quite a few Legendary from Go in the GTS. So since I was getting so many Go entries filled out could I just use
Home to fill in all those Go Legend slots? I mean, I would never be able to get all of them otherwise even if I played Go....so....
BEHOLD
Lugia for Ho-Oh | GB, JP, GTS |
Ho-Oh for Kyogre | Premier, Japanese, Go, GTS |
Kyogre for Groudon | Premier, Go, Japanese, Searched |
Groudon for Rayquaza | Premier, Go, Spanish, GTS |
Rayquaza for Mewtwo | Ultra, SWSH, Eng, GTS |
Mewtwo for Dialga | Premier, Go, Korean, GTS |
Dialga for Palkia | Premier, Go, Japanese, GTS |
Palkia for Giratina | Premier, Go, English, Searched |
Giratina for Reshiram | Premier, Go, French, GTS |
Reshiram for Mesprit | Premier, Go, English, Searched |
Mesprit for Azelf | Premier, Go, English, Searched |
Azelf for Uxie | Premier, Go, Chinese-Simple, GTS |
Uxie for Uxie | Premier, Go, Japanese, Search |
Uxie for Regirock | Timer, RSE, Germany, GTS |
Regirock for Regice | Ultra, Go, English, GTS |
Regice for Registeel | Timer, BDSP, Korean, GTS |
Registeel for Regirock | Premier, Go, Japanese, GTS |
Regirock for Registeel | Premier, Go, Chinese-Traditional, GTS |
Registeel for Virizion | Premier, Go, Japanese, GTS |
Virizion for Cobalion | Ultra, Go, Spanish, GTS |
Cobalion for Terrakion | Premier, Go, English, GTS |
Terrakion for Entei | Moon, BDSP, Chinese-Simple, GTS |
Entei for Suicune | Ultra, Go, English, GTS |
Suicune for Entei | Ultra, Go, Spanish, GTS |
Entei for Raikou | Premier, Go, Korean, GTS |
Raikou for Latias | Premier, Go, English, GTS |
Latias for Tornadus | Master, Gen 5, English, GTS |
Tornadus for Thundrus | Dive, Gen 5, Japanese, GTS |
Thundurus for Thundurus | Premier, Go, Japanese, Searched |
Thundurus for Tapu Bulu | Premier, Go, Chinese-Simple, Searched |
Tapu Bulu for Tapu Fini | Premier, Go, English, GTS |
Tapu Fini for Tapu Lele | Premier, Go, English, GTS |
Tapu Lele for Tapu Koko | Ultra, Alola, English, GTS |
Tapu Koko for Tapu Lele | Premier, Go, Spanish, GTS |
Tapu Lele for Tapu Koko | Premier, Go, Chinese-Simple, GTS |
Tapu Koko for Tornadus | Pokeball, SWSH, English, GTS |
Tornadus for Landorus | Premier, Go, Chinese-Traditional, GTS, Therian |
Landorus for Mewtwo | Premier, Go, Spanish, Searched |
Mewtwo for Kyurem | Premier, Go, French, GTS |
Kyurem for Zekrom | Beast, Alola, English, Lev 100, PK Hex |
Zekrom for Reshiram | Premier, Go, English, Searched |
Reshiram for Zekrom | Premier, Go, Spanish, Searched |
Zekrom for Xerneas | Premier, Go, English, GTS |
Xerneas for Yveltal | Ultra, Gen 6, Japanese, GTS |
Yveltal for Xerneas | Ultra, Gen 6, Spanish, GTS |
Xerneas for Yveltal | Premier, Go, Spanish, GTS |
Yveltal for Solgaleo | Pokeball, SWSH, Chinese-Simple, GTS |
Solgaleo for Cosmog | Pokeball, Alola, English, GTS |
Cosmoem for Cosmog | Pokeball, Go, Spanish, Searched |
Solgaleo for Lunala | Ultra, Alola, English, GTS |
Lunala for Lunala | Pokeball, SWSH, English, Searched |
Lunala for Solgaleo | Ultra, Alola, German, GTS |
Solgaleo for Lunala | Master, Alola, German, GTS |
Lunala for Solgaleo | Ultra, SWSH, German, Searched |
Solgaleo for Cosmoem | Pokeball, Alola, Chinese-Simple, Searched |
Cosmoem for Lunala | Master, Alola, Japanese, GTS |
Lunala for Ho-Oh | Ultra, Go, Japanese, Searched |
Ho-oh for Lunala | N/A |
Ho-Oh for Solgaleo | Pokeball, SWSH, Japanese, GTS |
Solgaleo for Lunala | Ultra, Go, English, Searched |
Lunala for Regigigas | Premier, Go, Spanish, Searched |
Regigigas for Heatran | Ultra-H, Legends, English, GTS |
Heatran for Heatran | Premier, Go, Korean, Searched |
Heatran for Cresselia | Master, DP, Japanese, GTS |
Cresselia for Cresselia | Premier, Go, Japanese, Searched |
Cresselia for Tornadus | Pokeball, SWSH, English, GTS, Shiny(Hack) |
This was the first "chain" of GTS trades I did from my "paperclip" Lugia. As you can see, it went on for quite a while and some Pokemon I had to fish for significantly more than others. Some of these also had quite the bit of "wait time" and I had to pull out and ask for something else to try and churn the pot a little.
Some observations:
- Generally speaking, "paired" (or trio'd) Pokemon go very quickly. Version Exclusives in particular, but even if all of the set is available in one game they'll often get a hit in no time
- There's definitely certain "tiers" in play. It's all a bit loose, and you can get a little lucky or unlucky, but I'd say approximately at the top layer are the restricted/box legends, below that are the "loose" legends like Cresselia, Regigigas, the Lati, etc and then below that are the "Trios". It's pretty easy to go "down" a tier but pretty difficult to climb back "up" unless you can find a bridge.
- You'll see that I actually did a drop down Reshiram for Mesprit, which was because I learned the lake spirits were region locked in Go! I didn't want to take the chance to let that get away, which was worth it in the long run but trying to get back to the "top layer" was a lot of trial and error no present in the chart before making my way to Landorus.
- But within those tiers are themselves. Gen 1-6 Legends in general? Very common, very quick. But it took longer to move into Gen 7, you'll see up there that I used a Yveltal to make the gen 7 leap but that was after a lot of tiral and error. Once you're in Gen 7 it goes much smoother but I was very lucky I found the Ho-oh bridge trade for Solgaleo. And straight up I do not think you can get into the Gen 8 train without your own gen 8 legendary, more on that later
- The Legendary Birds are a giant pain in the ass, significantly harder to get than any other "common" Legend. I think the root cause of this is because Home just says ie "Articuno" but not the form and the Galarian birds are very common asks. So people just don't bother biting because they assume that's what is wanted.
- To a similar extent, it was hard to get into the Tornadus/Thundurus loop. There's a bit more importance placed on them for some reason, I think the Therian Forms are very sought after but I really don't know why....if you have them and have multiple games you likely have access to multiple avenues of having a "living sextet"...
- People love swapping Cosmog/Cosmoem for Solgaleo & Lunala
- Cresselia, Kyogre & Lunala are very sough after, they routinely had way more options avialable to them then anyone else.
- Lunala was also pretty rare, which probably plays into the above. All those Lunala trades above had VERY long wait times.
- People love catching their Go legendary Pokemon in Premier balls. Before this I didn't even know Premier was an option in Go.
Now...that Tornadus at the end there...that ruined everything. If you saw my SQSA post asking about how you mess up a hack this badly, that's the same Tornadus. TL;DR it had mismatched origin and ball data and once it touched an actual game Home went "wait what is this, what are you doing, you can't trade it". Just a complete showstopper and I still had a number of Pokemon to go, but didn't want to dip into my legendary stores.
What if I need them later!
Until I remembered my secondary file for Sword, that I literally only used for getting the other DLC Pokemon, Kubfu and a Zacian to trade for a Zamazenta. I don't care about that file at all, so a few runs through the Dynamax Adventures to stock up on some options later...
Articuno for Zapdos | Premier, Go, English, GTS, Shiny |
An immediate stopper. This one is definitely legit but its like...I didn't want to get rid of a Shiny Zapdos. This did reveal to me that the birds do trade for each other very fast, though. It's alright though I'll throw some other stuff up and see what I can get. Latios I suspected would be able to get to the Tornadus track and--
Latios for Tornadus | Pokeball, ORAS, GTS, Shiny (Hacked, but better) |
Bro come on. This at first blush felt very legitimate, but there's an incongruity between its Level (50, same as in ORAS) but had champion ribbons. And it never gained a level, mmmm? But it had pretty normal stats, locations, origins and the ribbons it had were fairly reasonable and it had proper "move" data for Bank (!), SWSh and SV (complete with Tera type). I think this was hacked, but something someone actually used. There's history here. I was charmed by it and wanted to keep it.
Let's see how Cresselia works
Cresselia for Tornadus | Pokeball, SWSH, English, GTS, Shiny(Hack) |
Tornadus for Tornadus | Premier, Go, French, GTS |
I got
another bad hacked Tornadus from the same damn OT. I listed this in the SQSA one too. However, on a lark, I was able to trade it for a (Therian) Go Tornadus despite just being an utter disaster, because Home couldn't detect the incongruities. Now its your problem, French Home User.
I decided to keep this as a trophy for my hardships
For this next set, I had 3 going at once. An Azelf I prayed would get onto the Bird track, first of all....
Azelf for Moltres | Premier, Go, English, GTS |
Moltres for Articuno | Pokeball, GB, Japanese, GTS |
Articuno for Articuno | Premier, Go, Chinese-Traditional, Searched |
Which worked great. Now's a good a time as any to bring up that there's a trend of people putting up a pokemon and asking for that same Pokemon. Sometimes any variant of it, but often with a specific language in mind. You can get pretty lucky, so it's always worth checking the "Wanted Pokemon" search which is what i mean any time I say "Searched"
However it took a long,
long time to get that initial Moltres. People are vary wary!
Next let's talk about
Gen 8. Everyone wants them, very few people want to get rid of them. The GTS is flooded with asks for the horses, calyrex, the dogs, kubfu, urshifu, enamorus.....For Go purposes we only have to worry about 4, the Regi and the Wolves. So I pulled out my Regieleki and my Zamazenta (Which I got before the shiny give away, that you cant trade. Funny how that works) and decided to do some loops until I got a hit.
Zamazenta for Zamazenta | Premier, Go, Japanese, Search |
Zamazenta for Zacian | Premier, Go, Chinese-Traditional, GTS |
Zacian for Zamazenta | Ultra, Go, Japanese, GTS |
Thankfully this didn't take very long at all. Although I had a "living' Zamazenta, I still wanted a normal one on hand so I traded back. And even got another Go out of the deal, which was fun. The Zacian trade went fast, but the final Zamazenta took a bit. Zamazenta is definitely the less popular of the two so there's probably not as many out there.
Regieleki for Regidrago | Dusk, SWSH, English, GTS |
Regidrago for Reigeleki | Master, SWSH, English, GTS |
Regieleki for Regidrago | Pokeball, SWSH, Japanese, GTS |
Regidrago for Regidrago | Premier, Go, Italian, Search |
Regidrago for Regieleki | Pokeball, SWSH, English, GTS, Shiny (Hack) |
Regieleki for Regidrago | Premier, Go, German, Search |
Regidrago for Regieleki | Premier, Go, Chinese-Traditional, GTS |
Getting Go-Regieleki was an utter nightmare The Eleki trades took forever, they weren't showing up in the Searches and I was about to lose my mind when I got that awful hacked Eleki (same issue as the Tornadus I got earlier). Thankfully I could trade that one away. Regieleki had to be the rarer raid in Go, right? I had no problesms finding Dragos on the search.
But thankfully those are taken care of. To this point, the only legendary Pokemon missing are the UBs, which I thought would be "easy".
Fool
Xurkitree for Guzzlord | Pokeball, SWSH, English, GTS |
Guzzlord for Nihilego | Premier, Go, Japanese, Search |
Nihilego for Xurkitree | Beast, Alola, Korean, GTS |
Xurkitree for Guzzlord | Premier, Go, Japanese, GTS |
Guzzlord for Buzzwole | Beast, Go, English, GTS |
Buzzwole for Pheromosa | Pokeball, SWSH, Italian, GTS |
Pheromosa for Kartana | Beast, Alola, Japanese, GTS |
Kartana for Celesteela | Premier, Go, Spanish, GTS |
Celesteela for Kartana | Pokeball, SWSH, English, GTS |
Kartana for Pheromosa | Beast, Go, Spanish, GTS |
Pheromosa for Kartana | Pokeball, SWSH, English, GTS |
Kartana for Celesteela | Great, SWSH, Italian, GTS |
Celesteela for Kartana | Pokeball, SWSH, Chinese-Simple, GTS |
Kartana for Kartana | Premier, Go, Japanese, Search |
Kartana for Xurkitree | Ultra, SWSH, Korean, GTS |
Xurkitree for Guzzlord | Luxury, SWSH, German, GTS |
Guzzlord for Xurkitree | Beast, Alola, Chinese-Traditional, GTS |
Xurkitree for Xurkitree | Beast, Go, Japanese, Search |
Can you smell the desperation?
Not shown are all the "dead end" asks.
- Nihilego is going around now in Go and as such it's everywhere but almost no one wants them, certainly not for the "VE" UBs. That Xurkitree trade took FOREVER.
- Xurkitree for Guzzlord & visaversa happened pretty quick
- the 4 VEs flip between each other without much issue
- I thought I would never get that damn Kartana, though. Kartana & Celesteela are also regional locked iirc, but if it wasn't for that random Kartana/Kartana trade I'd probably still be doing it
- Xurkitree also had me sweating for similar reasons.
However! I got them all. In the end the only Legends I
don't have are the ones literally not released in Go, which are Zygarde, Necrozma, the USUM UBs, all the other Gen 8 legends and of course the Gen 9 crew. Mythics don't enter into this equation: they aren't in the Go Dex in home.
So all my Wonder Boxing, all this GTSing for legends, a little bit of stuff I got from Go before uninstalling because I hate it, and a few extra Wanted Search trades later, I now have 505 Pokemon in the Go dex. That's pretty impressive! Of all Pokemon total, that's exactly half of them, and once you remove Mythics from the equation it's over half. Even better when you exclude all the Pokemon still not in Go; which is mostly gen 8 Pokemon! They've barely touched that thing there's not even the starters....
It would be higher but:
- I've got a Snivy (several of these, actually, but I only kept the Shiny I found), Tepig, Patrat, Sewaddle, Pansage, Pansear, Ducklett, Pikipek & Rattata-A which I...can't evolve anywhere.DLC will help but there'll stil be some stragglers until idk Legends Unova or Stark White and Deep Black or whatever. And if none of those have Alolan Rattata I'm stranded!
- Slowpoke(Slowking), Boldore, Karrablast, Swirlix and Phantump all require trades. I mean I have friends I can trade with but its annoying and I just don't feel like it
- I have an Ursaring. I do not have a Peat Block. I have tried, oh lord have I tried. I am in Legends a LOT for evolving various Pokemon, especially trade evolutions, but Peat Blocks are disproportionately rarer than anything else and significantly more annoying to even find the "duds". & Ginter refuses to refresh his stock. At this point I'm just going to wait for the DLC to hopefully bring in the Peat Block evolution method. I'm lucky I got a Kleavor through an early early early wonder box.
And with that I think I'm actually done (real_final_truefinal_REALFINALFINAL), for a while. I met my main goal, and I'm tired of reverse searching, and there's definite swings in what shows up in the Wonder Box relative to events in Go.
Ah but one final note, I wound up getting quite the number of Let's Go Pokemon too. I skipped those games, you see. They're basically impossible to actively seek out so it was more a "may as well" type thing as I got unevolved Pokemon; there's 47 of them out of 150. How cute.