Author_Pundragon(And my name is a pun on Author :P)
Author_Pundragon(And my name is a pun on Author :P)
Considering I got it right in other slates and then got it wrong in two different ways this time, I have no excuses.(And my name is a pun on Author :P)
Old Pokémon Name: Zangoose
New Pokémon Name: Ferongoose
Evolution Method: Level up off of the EXP gained from defeating a Seviper
Typing:View attachment 144228
Abilities: Scrappy/Toxic Boost*
*Now provides an immunity to the passive damage dealt by the poisoned status
Stats: 83/135/90/80/80/120 | BST: 588
New Moves: Bulk Up, Earthquake, Giga Impact, Hyper Beam
Competitive Niche: Ferongoose's fantastic movepool, abilities, and Attack and Speed stats give it the potential to be a top-tier threat in Evos for Everyone. Extra moves are mostly for flavor, as Zangoose already has everything it could possibly want in its current learnset: the perfect boosting move in Swords Dance, powerful STABs in Facade/Return and Close Combat, and coverage for Ghosts in Knock Off (which can be replaced with EQ or Quick Attack on a Scrappy set).
Old Pokémon Name: Seviper
New Pokémon Name: Corruppent
Evolution Method: Level up off of the EXP gained from defeating a Zangoose
Typing:View attachment 144237View attachment 144235
Abilities: Unburden/Infiltrator
Stats: 83/120/80/120/90/95 | BST: 588
New Moves: Nasty Plot, Gunk Shot, Giga Impact, Hyper Beam, Sucker Punch*
*Now legal with Infiltrator
Competitive Niche: Say hello to the newest abuser of Unburden+Terrain. Great coverage all around, and the option of going Physical or Special is a really nice bonus too. Again, Giga Impact and Hyper Beam are for flavor, but Coil+Gunk Shot is scary, and Nasty Plot helps out on the Special side.
Old Pokémon Name: Kyurem
New Pokémon Name: Kyurell
Evolution Method: Use the God Stone
Typing:View attachment 144239View attachment 144238
Ability: Sheer Force
Stats: 75/85/45/85/45/50 | BST: 385
Removed Moves: Hyper Beam, Giga Impact, Roost
Competitive Niche: Really great abuser (and the only real abuser) of Sheer Force in LC.
TBH, I think the modifications should just be new moves and abilities. That way we don't mess with the existing Pokemon who get said moves and abilities. Except infiltrator interacting with sucker. That one is too minor to make a new move or ability
Old Pokémon Name: Durant
New Pokémon Name: Adaptant
Evolution Method: Level up in a hot area (i.e. Mt. Chimney, Stark Mountain, Reversal Mountain)
Typing:View attachment 144246View attachment 144245
Abilities: Adaptability/Hustle/Heatproof*
*Now provides an immunity to burn instead of reducing its passive damage (essentially Water Bubble but w/o the doubled Water-type attack power)
Stats: 72/122/124/60/61/129 | BST: 568
New Moves: Earthquake, Fire Fang, Ice Fang, Swords Dance, X-Scissor*
*90BP (+10BP), 100% acc, 15PP, +High critical hit ratio
Competitive Niche: With three incredible abilities and coverage out the wazoo, Adaptant is ready to take on its rival Cinderillo, and this time, it's a fair fight. Newly buffed X-Scissor will be great on any set, and SD just sweetens the deal.
Old Pokémon Name: Zangoose
New Pokémon Name: Ferongoose
Evolution Method: Level up off of the EXP gained from defeating a Seviper
Typing:View attachment 144228
Abilities: Scrappy/Toxic Boost*
*Now provides an immunity to the passive damage dealt by the poisoned status
Stats: 83/135/90/80/80/120 | BST: 588
New Moves: Bulk Up, Earthquake, Giga Impact, Hyper Beam
Competitive Niche: Ferongoose's fantastic movepool, abilities, and Attack and Speed stats give it the potential to be a top-tier threat in Evos for Everyone. Extra moves are mostly for flavor, as Zangoose already has everything it could possibly want in its current learnset: the perfect boosting move in Swords Dance, powerful STABs in Facade/Return and Close Combat, and coverage for Ghosts in Knock Off (which can be replaced with EQ or Quick Attack on a Scrappy set).
Old Pokémon Name: Seviper
New Pokémon Name: Corruppent
Evolution Method: Level up off of the EXP gained from defeating a Zangoose
Typing:View attachment 144237View attachment 144235
Abilities: Unburden/Infiltrator
Stats: 83/120/80/120/90/95 | BST: 588
New Moves: Nasty Plot, Gunk Shot, Giga Impact, Hyper Beam, Sucker Punch*
*Now legal with Infiltrator
Competitive Niche: Say hello to the newest abuser of Unburden+Terrain. Great coverage all around, and the option of going Physical or Special is a really nice bonus too. Again, Giga Impact and Hyper Beam are for flavor, but Coil+Gunk Shot is scary, and Nasty Plot helps out on the Special side.
Old Pokémon Name: Kyurem
New Pokémon Name: Kyurell
Evolution Method: Use the God Stone
Typing:View attachment 144239View attachment 144238
Ability: Sheer Force
Stats: 75/85/45/85/45/50 | BST: 385
Removed Moves: Hyper Beam, Giga Impact, Roost
Competitive Niche: Really great abuser (and the only real abuser) of Sheer Force in LC.
I hope it's cool if we give small buffs to old moves and abilities. I think it's totally fair and a good extension of this Pet Mod. For now, though, I'll just list X-Scissor as a "new" move.
I did a minor quicknerf, I'd like to preserve it's bulk and attack, but I'll cut the speed to manageable levelsGuys I think these Zangoose evos look broken; super fast, super strong, with decent bulk. Assuming they hold a Toxic Orb they also have status immunity and free stat boosts. They can set up Swords Dance on walls that rely on status and they have insane Dual STAB in Facade and Close Combat (or Extremespeed). These things have very few counters, and I think it's safe to say that these would be centralising to the metagame. I know that there is no limit on the BST of pokemon here, but you should really avoid giving stats that outclass any existing pokemon unless there is some kind of real disadvantage outweighing it.
These things are fast, strong, and decently bulky, without a particularly weak typing and having a large amount of ability-based perks and move synergies. The 585+ BST, while legal, does kind of illustrate the problem: they are just too strong all around. In general you should use the "power triangle" principle, which is to say, if a pokemon has all three of power, speed and bulk, it is probably broken. These pokemon aren't amazingly bulky, but they are amazingly fast and strong, so they should probably be glass cannons. What they have is solid bulk that will make them pretty hard to OHKO as they Swords Dance and then outspeed and OHKO the vast majority of the metagame.
Edit: I know there are mods here where this level of power would be fine, and guaging the right power level isn't exactly easy. Please only take this as constructive criticism.
Edit 2: Please do not edit existing moves and abilities. Copying an existing ability with a new name is hardly more difficult than editing an existing one anyway, and it keeps things far more clear to new players who are reliant on a spreadsheet to know what things do. The Sucker Punch thing is not a change to the move or the ability, it's a change to the pokemon's learnset, which is fine.
I would highly recommend against giving this thing Ground coverage, as that would allow it to easily blow past a lot defensive threats like Fugishimi, Spikifish, Toxapex, and Torkettle that really should be able to counter it. You mention it being an anti-offense mon, but with 150 base attack and speed you really need to limit the coverage or it's just going to be a broken mon that outspeeds everything and gets a kill whenever it comes in. Also it still has Superpower to deal with a lot of Steel-types, so it's not like it doesn't have OK coverage already.Evolved when levelled up with experience gained from defeating a Heatmor.
New Pokemon Name: Teflant (teflon + ant)
Type:
New Moves: Earthquake, Extinguishing Bite (physical, bug type clone of Freeze-Dry that's supereffective against Fire types)
Ability: Flash Fire, Hustle, Truant
Stats: 70 / 150 / 56 / 48 / 24 / 150 (498 BST)
Competitive Niche: The hunted becomes the hunter: Teflant has evolved to become the hunter of Cinderillo and Heatmor. It's become immune to Fire-type attacks allowing it to easily switch in on notable Pokemon such as Mega Charizard Y and Heatran. Despite its good defensive typing, Teflant has no defensive utility outside of its two immunities due to its very poor defensive stats; even Toxapex can 2HKO Teflant with Scald. Teflant's main drawcard is its high attack and blistering speed allowing it to punch through most offensive Pokemon.Just make sure it's not up against any Choice Scarf or priority users.
Fugishimi and Spikifish actually avoided a 2HKO from a Life Orb Earthquake. Forgot it had Superpower though so I'll remove Earthquake. It still has Z-Dig but the only defensive steel type it can OHKO with it is Torkettle.Also it still has Superpower to deal with a lot of Steel-types, so it's not like it doesn't have OK coverage already.
Honestly this thing is fine with EQ coverage, but I see why we don't want to powercreep too muchFugishimi and Spikifish actually avoided a 2HKO from a Life Orb Earthquake. Forgot it had Superpower though so I'll remove Earthquake. It still has Z-Dig but the only defensive steel type it can OHKO with it is Torkettle.
It has Hustle, though, which is what most Durant currently run. With those stats, I think Hustle is the better ability, as much as I personally hate the accuracy.Fugishimi and Spikifish actually avoided a 2HKO from a Life Orb Earthquake. Forgot it had Superpower though so I'll remove Earthquake. It still has Z-Dig but the only defensive steel type it can OHKO with it is Torkettle.
We don't want power creep because we are less than 20 games into the meta and all of the mons that have been added thus far are valid, balanced, and should be useable as originally intended. All it takes is one broken mon to seriously reduce how fun the metagame is. This metagame is something a lot people have spent a lot of time and effort on and so it's worth being careful. I really don't see anything at all that's gained by a submission being broken. It seems like something we should all be trying to avoid, not constantly flirting with as closely as possible.Honestly this thing is fine with EQ coverage, but I see why we don't want to powercreep too much