Definitely the latter option. 10% simply doesn't survive hits in this metagame.So I've been trying to figure out how to make a good Zygarde Complete. Would a 10% be better for a speedy coil into 100% or would 50% be better to insure surviving but at the cost of a slower coil? What nature or evs would you run?
So you'd run max hp/def with coil or potentially hp/max special def and proceed to dragon tail everything? Or instead even trapper with waves and proceed to set up on something with rest.Definitely the latter option. 10% simply doesn't survive hits in this metagame.
Coil sets are generally phys def to take on Ekiller and offensive Pdon better.
You can still run some speed on Zygarde to get the drop on min-speed 90s like support Pdon, which only requires 44 speed EVs which you take out of HP. You'll still easily check the many physical threats in the tier, regardless.Zygarde should be 252 HP / 252 Def / Impish, because teams will be using it to check physical threats.
I think the two best Zygarde sets are Coil mono-attacker and Phazer, both with Rest and Sleep Talk. Obviously the Phazer will want hazard support, and the Coil will want some people to deal with Fairies.
I'm a pretty big fan of my DD set with resto Chesto. With 152 speed EV's, after a Dragon Dance you outspeed timid base 130's, most notable mega gengar, meaning its no long scares you out. Subtitute is also great for getting into power construct easier and avoid status moves, the substitute will be fast with DD and have a lot of HP, so it can take weaker hits.Zygarde should be 252 HP / 252 Def / Impish, because teams will be using it to check physical threats.
I think the two best Zygarde sets are Coil mono-attacker and Phazer, both with Rest and Sleep Talk. Obviously the Phazer will want hazard support, and the Coil will want some people to deal with Fairies.
I'm certain that Zygarde Complete is playing some role in the lack of Ho Oh.hazard harder to remove/fight over? :thinking:
Ogre is that good again? This excites me greatly...Primal Kyogre's newfound dominance of the meta certainly isn't helping Ho-Oh's case, either.
Speaking of Primal Kyogre, that thing is an absolute savage right now. How the hell do defensive teams beat this thing besides using Pdon? Even with Pdon, Pogre's simply gonna keep chipping it with Ice Beam when it comes in until it dies to a +1 Ice Beam, and then what do you do?
252 SpA Life Orb Palkia Thunder vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Kyogre-Primal: 231-273 (57.1 - 67.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKOOgre is that good again? This excites me greatly...
Still isn't Palkia a decent solution vs Ogre still?
It isn't going to be unbanned. This is because Swagger is still purely luck based and is an underhanded strategy that doesn't build what Ubers or any Smogon-Tier promotes, which is a balanced and skillful meta.So are we going to get back Swagger in Ubers now that it and Prankster were nerfed this gen and already unbanned in OU?
There have been several incidents of considerable dissent between users, and while I would not defend public hostility that begins to cross over into bullying that has on occasion resulted from the use of this strategy, it should be evident that swagger is toxic both to competitive play and to the community.
So is it going to be rebanned in OU then?It isn't going to be unbanned. This is because Swagger is still purely luck based and is an underhanded strategy that doesn't build what Ubers or any Smogon-Tier promotes, which is a balanced and skillful meta.
It isn't going to be unbanned. This is because Swagger is still purely luck based and is an underhanded strategy that doesn't build what Ubers or any Smogon-Tier promotes, which is a balanced and skillful meta.So is it going to be rebanned in OU then?
I don't think you are understanding what he is saying. Currently, Swagger is not banned in the OU beta metagame so he is asking whether or not it will be banned in the future.It isn't going to be unbanned. This is because Swagger is still purely luck based and is an underhanded strategy that doesn't build what Ubers or any Smogon-Tier promotes, which is a balanced and skillful meta.
Swagger is likely to remained banned in all tiers. It seems that you've only made a total of 2 posts. Those posts were both made in the last 25 minutes. Check out some of the resources found here on Smogon, and on Pokemon Showdown. They will help you understand why we have things in place such as a Swagger Clause.