DPP / HGSS RNG Manipulation Guide Part 2 - How to Capture / Receive Perfect Pokemon

• The DPP / HGSS RNG Manipulation Guide
• DPP / HGSS RNG Manipulation Guide Part 1 - Common Information for Breeding, Capturing, and Receiving Perfect Pokemon
• DPP / HGSS RNG Manipulation Guide Part 2 - How to Capture / Receive Perfect Pokemon
  • General Steps for the RNG Manipulation of Method 1/J/K Pokemon in DPP and HGSS
    • Step 1: Searching for a Seed
    • Step 2: Timer and Clock Setup, Hitting your Seed
    • Step 3: Delay / Seed Verification
    • Step 4: Frame Advancement
      • Step 4a: Determining the Number of Advancements
    • Step 5: Verifying your Frame
  • Special Cases
    • Wondercards
    • Roamers
    • Starter Pokemon
    • Fossil Pokemon
    • Distortion World Giratina
    • Sinjoh Ruins Dragons
    • Lake of Rage / Red Gyarados
    • Egg Gift Pokemon
    • Manaphy Egg
    • Surfing / Fishing
    • Swarm Pokemon
    • Honey Tree Pokemon
    • Headbutt Tree Pokemon
    • Rock Smash Pokemon
    • Safari Zone Pokemon
    • Great Marsh Pokemon
    • Trophy Garden Pokemon
• DPP / HGSS RNG Manipulation Guide Part 3 - How to Hatch Perfect Pokemon
• DPP / HGSS RNG Manipulation Guide Part 4 - How to Abuse for your Desired TID/SID
• DPP / HGSS RNG Manipulation Guide Part 5 - Cute Charm TID/SID and Poke Radar Abuse

General Steps for the RNG Manipulation of Method 1/J/K Pokemon in DPP and HGSS

Let's start off with the simplest form of RNG manipulation, the capture. First, we need to choose a target. Either a legendary or a wild Pokemon will work. To make life easier, bring a Pokemon with the Synchronize ability and the nature you wish to get.

If you want a wild Pokemon, you'll have to find a Pokemon with Sweet Scent and bring it along as well. If you don't want to go through the trouble of finding a Pokemon with Sweet Scent, then you can use the item Honey, which gives you the same effect.

Step 1: Searching for a Seed

The first thing we need to do is find an IV spread we're content with getting. To do that we need to go to the 4th Generation Time Finder as seen below.

Now that we're in Time Finder, we need to fill in some information before we search. Say we want to search for a pure specially based Pokemon. Such a Pokemon would use the IVs 31/x/31/31/31/31 and is typically either Modest, Calm, Bold, or Timid.

You'd fill in the Time Finder similar to what's shown in the picture below. Before rushing in, let's take a moment to explain a few entries in Time Finder.

Note about the dropboxes next to IVs:

• == means you want an exact IV.
• >= means you want an IV greater than or equal to the selected IV.
• <= means you want an IV less than or equal to the selected IV.
• != means you want an IV not equal to the selected IV.
• E means you want an even IV. Useful if you want a certain Hidden Power but don't care too much about an imperfect Base Power.
• O means you want an odd IV. Useful if you want a certain Hidden Power but don't care too much about an imperfect Base Power.
• HP means you want an IV that keeps the Hidden Power's Base Power from being lowered. Useful if you want to search for a Hidden Power of 70 Base Power. If you're curious, the IVs that satisfy this are 2, 3, 6, 7, 10, 11, 14, 15, 18, 19, 22, 23, 26, 27, 30, and 31.
• HP_E is the same idea as HP, but restricts the search to even IVs. It's useful if you're looking for a specific Hidden Power of 70 Base Power.
• HP_O is the same idea as HP, but restricts the search to odd IVs. It's useful if you're looking for a specific Hidden Power of 70 Base Power.
• For DPPt minimum delay should be around 650. For HGSS minimum delay should be around 550.
• For HGSS it's recommended to set the minimum frame around 10-15.

Method

Regarding method, for all 4th generation games Method 1 is used only if you're going for the following:

• Pokemon Ranger Manaphy Egg
• Wondercards have their own method, which is just a modified Method 1

Note: Any Pokemon received from a trade or as a gift that has a fixed nickname and OT (Kenya the Spearow, Gaspar the Haunter, etc.) will have set IVs and nature so RNG manipulation techniques will never work on them.

If the Pokemon you seek does not fall into the Method 1 category, select Method J if using Diamond/Pearl/Platinum and Method K if using HeartGold/SoulSilver. Please refer to the "Special Cases" section and check if your Pokemon falls under this category.

Encounter Type

As for Encounter Type, if you're going for a Pokemon that has an overworld sprite that isn't the Red Gyarados (Sudowoodo, Snorlax, Heatran, Giratina, Azelf, etc.) select Stationary Pokemon. The rest are self-explanatory. Most of the time you'll be picking Wild Pokemon as your method unless you're only going to capture legendaries, in which case you'd pick Stationary Pokemon.

Encounter Slot

If you're looking for a specific Pokemon, like a wild Bronzong in Mt. Coronet, you'll need to pay attention to what's called Encounter Slots.

An Encounter Slot and its value determines the species of Pokemon you'll get.

How do we know what's what for the Encounter Slots? On the main window of RNG Reporter, under 4th Gen tools, you'll find tables for this.

If using Platinum, select Platinum Encounter Table and search for "Bronzong" in the page that opens. You'll find that Bronzong is in slot 0 at Mt. Coronet, so you'll have to select slot 0 for Encounter Slot. If you don't care about getting a specific Pokemon at the moment leave it as Any.

Ability

For a list of which abilities are 0 or 1 see here.

Now that we've explained the Time Finder, let's see what comes up. Click the Generate button to start searching.

If you want to capture a wild shiny, that's also possible. To search for possible wild shiny IVs in your current file, input your ID and SID and check the shiny only box. If you are willing to start a new game to get better IV spreads on your shiny captures it is NOT recommended to search for shinies now, but you can still find out what shiny spreads your current game has. Select an IV range you are satisfied with (usually >=25 in the stats that matter) and whatever natures you're interested in and hit Search. See the picture below for an example layout.

Whichever path you choose, the end steps are the same. Once you've found an IV spread, nature, encounter slot, and ability you're satisfied with, right click it and select "Copy Seed to Clipboard". As an example, we'll be using the Modest 31/4/31/31/31/31 spread with seed C1070A66. Head to the 4th Gen Seed To Time window and input your seed and desired year and seconds. It does not matter what you put for year and seconds as long as seconds isn't close to 0 or 60. Once done, hit Generate. The picture below has DPPt selected so if you're playing HGSS, be sure to select that instead!

In addition, change the entries next to "Delays" from 10 to 50 and the entries next to "Seconds" from 1 to 2. It's not necessary, but it's important if you actually want to find what delay you've hit.

Step 2: Timer and Clock Setup, Hitting your Seed

Now you can start hunting down your Pokemon! Do NOT close the Seed To Time window as you will need it open for the next 90% of this process. Go back to DPP / HGSS RNG Manipulation Guide Part 1 - Common Information for Breeding, Capturing, and Receiving Perfect Pokemon, specifically the "Using EonTimer" and "Setting up your DS Clock and Hitting your Seed" sections and follow those instructions. Once you're in-game, see the next section on seed verification.

Step 3: Delay / Seed Verification

IMPORTANT:For DPP and HGSS, once you have confirmed your delay and if it is odd but your desired delay is even and vice-versa, insert either a FRLG or RSE cart into your DS to change this. It's important to note this because if you hit an even delay once you will always hit even delays, likewise with odd delays. If you do not have a DS that has a second slot for GBA games or any of said GBA games, change the year in your DS clock or in the Seed to Time window by 1. Do not change both, as this will cause the delays to be out of sync again.

Chatot's Chatter will have varying pitches every time you play it. This is useful if operating in an area with random NPCs or if you have caught all roamers in HGSS. To use this, record a custom Chatter loud enough so that you can distinguish between high and low pitches.

Once in-game listen to Chatot's cry and note the pitches. See if the pattern matches that of your seed's. If a match is not found, use coin flips or Elm/Irwin calls to determine what seed you did hit. You'd probably want to copy the seed you hit in the main window and see how the pitches correspond to what you perceived them to be.

It may take multiple tries until you can match the pitches with their categories, and even then there's room for error, so only use this if you absolutely have no other viable options.

Also keep in mind that doing this will advance your frame by 1 for every Chatter you listen to, so make sure to account for this.

Once you have verified your seed, head to the next section on frame advancement.

Step 4: Frame Advancement

Any NPC that randomly moves will advance frames by 1 for each random movement. This can include turning or walking. If an NPC does both at once, then the frame advances by 2. Note that NPCs who are off-screen can advance the frame still, as long as they are within the same area.

Because of this, it is advisable to attempt your captures in areas with little or no NPCs. In DPPt you can stop some NPCs from randomly moving through the Vs Seeker. If this cannot be avoided you must press X to bring up the menu the moment you enter the in-game world. This freezes all NPCs in place and stops them from making any unnecessary advancements.

Chatter: to do this you must have a Chatot with the move and you MUST record a custom Chatter to advance frames with this method.

Once you do, accessing Chatot's summary window like the one below will advance the frame by 1.

To make things quicker, you can have two Chatot next to each other in your party and just keep flipping between their summaries. You do not have to listen to the whole Chatter sound, simply accessing their summary is enough.

Taking a step or turning in areas where you can encounter wild Pokemon (grass, water, or caves) advances the frame by 1 for each step/turn made.

Walking at least 128 steps will advance the frames by the number of Pokemon in your party. Do know that the games have an internal step counter that starts at 0 and resets to 0 when it reaches 128 and is always saved. This means that if you load your game and the step counter is at 127, taking one step will advance your frames. As a result, don't resort to this method unless it's absolutely necessary, which it won't be a majority of the time.

Having an active roamer in your game advances your initial frame by a different value depending on the seed. If you have Raikou, Entei, and Latios all roaming in your SoulSilver game, you could start off at frame 4 at least, but it's possible to start higher so remember to check the results to see how many frames the roamers will advance the RNG by for that seed.

Step 4a: Determining the Number of Advancements

Now that you've seen the possible methods of advancement, the next question you might have is how many should I do? To answer this, we'll have to go to the main window of RNG Reporter. Copy your seed into Seed (Hex) and fill in your encounter type and method. Don't forget this step!

Unless otherwise noted, method should be J for DPPt and K for HGSS. Encounter type should also be left at Wild Pokemon unless you're fishing or doing a legendary or a Pokemon with an overworld sprite, in which case you'd select Stationary Pokemon. See the section "Special Cases" for more details.

If you're going for a specific species of Pokemon (i.e. Bronzong in Mt. Coronet in Platinum), you'll need to take the encounter slot into account. As previously mentioned, Bronzong is in slot 0, so you'll need to find the frame that's slot 0. Make sure the slots match up, otherwise you'll get a different Pokemon. See the picture below for an example.

If you want Bronzong you'll have to use frame 230, not frame 224 or 226, despite those frames having the same IVs.

You also need to check if you're using a Pokemon with Synchronize. If so, select the nature of your Synchronizer.

Once that's done, hit Generate. Find your desired IV spread. It should be easy to spot the IVs because 30 and 31 IVs are bolded by RNG Reporter. Shown below is what a search for our Modest 31/4/31/31/31/31 spread in DPPt would look like.

If you are doing this in a "quiet" area (with no NPCs that will advance your frame) then you will start on frame 1 assuming no active roamers. If you are using the roamer verification method in HGSS, then your starting frame will be 1+ (# of active roamers), meaning if all three roamers are currently roaming you start on frame 4.

For this case we want to get Modest 31/4/31/31/31/31, which is on frame 145 or 147. If there are no roamers active, simply do 145-1 = 144 OR 147-1 = 146 frame advances then encounter your Pokemon (either through Sweet Scent/Honey or talking to it). Once you capture it check its nature and IVs and it should be the Modest 31/4/31/31/31/31 Pokemon we seek. If there are active roamers, you'd be doing 145-(starting frame) or 147-(starting frame) advances where starting frame is 1+(# of active roamers). The (target frame)-(starting frame)=(# of advances) formula is virtually the same for any attempt at RNG manipulation, unless there are random NPCs in the area.

(NOTE TO USERS OF RNG REPORTER PRE 9.94: The frames are automatically adjusted to account for Sweet Scent/Honey in later versions. In the above example, if you were trying to get this Pokemon you DO NOT have to make any further adjustments if using the most current RNG Reporter. Simply do 144 or 146 advances before Sweet Scenting/using Honey and you should get it.)

For areas with randomly moving NPCs, it's going to be a little harder. Still using the above example, as soon as you enter the game world mash X to bring up the in-game menu ASAP. If you're using HGSS, then confirm your seed first through Elm/Irwin calls or roamers. If using DPPt, then you should use Vs Seeker to stop any NPCs from moving first before even attempting this, then if you're sure that the area has no randomly moving NPCs, verify your seed with coin flips.

After that, do your frame advancements as if you're on frame 1 (that means 144 or 146 advancements still) then use Sweet Scent/Honey or talk to the Pokemon to start battle. If all goes well you should get your desired Pokemon. If you didn't, and say you got Quirky with IVs of 23/20/22/13/22/12 (frame 150), if you did 144 advances, you're aiming for frame 145 and had 5 random advances, so the next attempt should be 144-5 = 139 frame advances instead. By the same logic, doing 146 advances means you were aiming for frame 147, so you had 3 random advances, and thus should advance by 146-3 = 143 frames.

If using DPPt and you still have randomly moving NPCs you can't stop (due to not being able to battle them), you'll have to give up trying to verify your seed through coin flips and resort to Chatot pitches.

Going back to the above picture, see how there's a column called "Chatot Pitch"? Each frame will generate a different pitch for Chatter whenever you listen to it, which also advances the frame by 1. You'll want to record a Chatter that makes it easy to identify the pitch upon listening to it. Once you've done this you should practice by first hitting a delay in an area with no NPCs but with wild Pokemon, finding the seed, copying the seed to RNG Reporter's main window, and listening to the Chatter pitches to try to get a feel for what's low, mid-low, high, etc. Once you've got the hang of it, your RNG manipulations should go a lot smoother, especially in DPP.

If this method is too hard for you, you'll have to resort to bringing up the menu ASAP, doing your advances, and catching your Pokemon while hoping your seed is correct.

Step 5: Verifying your Frame

DPP does not have many methods to verify that you hit your correct frame. The best way to know this is after you've caught your Pokemon and check its IVs. Platinum has two useful NPCs that can help with this. One lies in Veilstone City's Game Corner exchange booth and can verify its Hidden Power type:

and the other lies in the Battle Tower (called "The Judge" in-game) and can tell you some nice information about your Pokemon's IVs.

Using The Judge

The first thing he will tell you about your Pokemon relates to the sum of its IVs. He will say one of 4 options, depending on the sum of the Pokemon's IVs (ranges from 0 to 186):

Message	IV Range
Decent	0-90
Above Average	91-120
Relatively Superior	121-150
Outstanding	151-186

Obviously, you'll want Outstanding, as shown below:

The next thing he'll tell you is the stat that has the highest IV. If your Pokemon has multiple highest IVs the Judge will tell you which stat is the highest at random, with a tendency to say Special Defense if that is one of the Pokemon's highest IVs.

The last thing he tells you is related to the value of the highest IV. He will say one of the following, depending on the value of the highest IV:

Message	IV / IV Range
Rather Decent	0-15
Very Good	16-25
Fantastic	26-30
Can't be better	31

Unless you're going for a specific Hidden Power, you'll want 31 most of the time, which results in "Can't be better", as shown below.

Characteristics

Circled in the picture below, a Pokemon's characteristic gives a hint on what one of its highest IVs is.

Because you will be aiming for at least one 31 IV for virtually all your RNG manipulation time, only the characteristics that show up when your Pokemon has a 31 IV will be listed. They are as follows:

Stat	Characteristic
HP	Often dozes off
Atk	Likes to thrash about
Def	Capable of taking hits
SpA	Mischievous
SpD	Somewhat vain
Spe	Alert to Sounds

Because of the Judge's bias towards Special Defense in Platinum, it is not recommended to use him to confirm how many 31 IVs you have, as it can take over 30 conversations with him to confirm your Pokemon's IVs if you have a 31/31/31/31/31/31 Pokemon. To save time you'll instead want to determine this by using your Pokemon's characteristic and his overall assessment of your Pokemon's IVs.

HGSS on the other hand has Elm/Irwin calls to verify your frame. If you're verifying your seed, you will either have roamers active or have to make a few Elm/Irwin calls, both of which advance frames.

Your last calls should have the pattern EKKEEEEP, as shown below. To reiterate, it is important that you reach the call that's ONE FRAME BEFORE YOUR TARGET and no more. Once you've done that, acquire your Pokemon or engage it in battle. If encountering a wild Pokemon, use Sweet Scent/Honey to force an encounter.

Special Cases

To reiterate, if something does not appear here, use Method J if using DPPt or Method K if using HGSS. For all cases, the given starting frame assumes that no roamers are active. If you have roamers, your starting frame will increase by the number of currently active roamers, the number of frames increased varies in HGSS.

Wondercards

Fundamentally, a Wondercard is not that much different from a regular capture, but there are some key differences. The first difference is the method of generation. It isn't going to affect too much when it comes to the Time Finder, just make sure you select Wondercard IVs as your method, as shown below.

All Wondercards are obtained from a delivery man wearing green in any Poké Mart. Start off by saving in front of him.

For DPP, you'll want to save in the Pastoria City Mart, as that has the least number of randomly moving NPCs. For HGSS, save in either Fuchsia or Cerulean City's Mart, as there are no randomly moving NPCs in either location. It's also important to save while no NPCs are currently moving.

Once that's done, you'll have to do the usual steps of finding a date and time, delay, and advancing your frames to get to your desired Pokemon. See the section on capturing a perfect Pokemon for more details. The biggest difference is the method used is Wondercard IVs, so make sure that's what you set it to when trying to hit your frame. In addition, when doing this in DPPt make sure you bring up the menu the moment you enter your game to prevent any unnecessary advances by NPCs.

The most painful part of this process is getting the correct nature. Whether you get it or not will come down to luck. Unlike other methods of RNG manipulation there is no known way to reliably control what nature you'll get without cheating, so it comes down to perseverance.

Roamers

Starters

The starters are generated by Method 1. Each starter has a different starting frame however.

Kanto

Pokemon	Starting Frame
Bulbasaur	5
Charmander	5
Squirtle	5

Hoenn starters all have a starting frame of 1.

The Johto and Sinnoh starters also operate similarly, but it is NOT recommended to get perfect starters this way as you have no reliable method of confirming your seed or advancing your frames and will have to rely on luck from randomly moving NPCs. Additionally, if you're going for a shiny starter, you will be confirm if it is shiny by simply clicking on the Poke Ball and the image displayed should be the shiny sprite if you did everything correctly.

Johto

Pokemon	Starting Frame
Chikorita	1
Cyndaquil	5
Totodile	9

Sinnoh starters all have a starting frame of 1.

Fossil Pokemon

The fossils are generated by Method 1 and have a starting frame of 1. Do note there are random NPCs in both facilities which may disrupt progress so keep the menu open as much as possible.

Egg Gift Pokemon

All Egg gifts are generated by Method 1 and have a starting frame of 1. There may be NPCs that will interfere throughout this process, so it's up to you to decide whether they're worth it or not.

Manaphy Egg

The Manaphy Egg is received like a Wondercard Pokemon, but it uses the Method 1 generation. The Wondercard follows the usual initial frames. It has a shiny check on it that prevents the hatched Manaphy from being shiny normally, but there is a way to bypass this check and get a shiny Manaphy.

You'll need to know the PID of the IV spread you're going for. Once you have it, you'll need a save file that isn't the one your Manaphy Wondercard is on, and has this PID shiny. Do the RNG manipulation and receive the Egg, and trade it to this game. Hatch it in the other game and if you did it correctly, you should now have a shiny Manaphy.

Because trading requires saving, you'll want to attempt this in HGSS since there's almost no room for error there.

To summarize, if you want a shiny Manaphy in game A:

1. Find out what shiny PID you have in game A.
2. Get the Egg with the same PID in game B.
3. Trade the Egg from game B to game A.
4. Hatch the Egg in game A.
5. Congratulations, you now have a shiny Manaphy!

Surfing / Fishing

Surfing/Fishing Pokemon are generated through Method J/K (J in DPP, K in HGSS). Pokemon caught while Surfing have a starting frame of 3; Pokemon caught while Fishing have a starting frame of 4. Note that in modern versions of the RNG Reporter, these starting frames are taken into account, effectively making the starting frame 1 for both if the proper encounter method is selected. The main differences between them and a regular capture are:

• Surfing/Fishing have their own encounter slots.
• The encounter slots for Fishing vary based on the type of Rod you're using. In the Encounter Tables you can access the encounter slots for Fishing/Surfing methods at the bottom left.
• Surfing/Fishing Pokemon have their own method.

The procedure for Surfing/Fishing is exactly the same as a capture. Make sure to save while already in the water and do not move until you're done. You'd encounter a Surfing Pokemon through Sweet Scent/Honey, while for Fishing you'd naturally use the appropriate Rod. Don't forget to also select the appropriate encounter type when doing your search and when trying to hit your frame.

Swarm Pokemon

Swarm Pokemon are treated as Method J or K Pokemon depending on what game you're playing. Starting frame is normally 1 but could be higher due to random NPCs. The encounter type is Wild Pokemon. Once you've confirmed what Pokemon is currently swarming and what route it's on, simply head to the Encounter Slot tables and search for the swarming Pokemon. Once you know what encounter slot it's on, the steps are the same as a wild Pokemon capture.

Honey Tree Pokemon

Honey tree Pokemon use Method J, use method Wild Pokemon, and have a starting frame of 1. It's recommended to do this in a route with NPCs that can all be frozen through Vs Seeker. The hardest part of this is finding the desired Pokemon in your tree, so you'll need to place Honey in as many trees as possible and wait a day for Pokemon to appear, then check if the trees have your desired Pokemon.

Rock Smash Pokemon

There are encounter slots for Rock Smash Pokemon. However, there is no implementation for the frames where you get an encounter, so avoid this method for now.