CaP 25 G Prevo - Part 4 - Movepool Submissions

[DHR-107]

Hey all!

Let's get some Movepools going for these new prevos! I will also be needing Evolution Levels from you all.

Remember, This is much stricter than a normal CaP Movepool! We are only allowed the moves which the CaP itself has in its movepool. You can move them around/change their order move TMs into level up moves and vice versa, but you cannot add any moves. Breaking this will result in Disqualification. This still leaves a surprising amount of variability and character for you to twist into the Prevo! Remember, Egg Moves cannot change!

I would like both movepools please!

Evolution Levels are as follows:

Grass: 16/16/16/18/17/16/17 -> 32/32/36/32/36/36/34

Fire: 16/14/16/14/17/16/17 -> 36/36/36/36/36/36/34

Water: 16/18/16/16/17/16/17 -> 36/30/36/36/36/36/34

I'd like us to have some sort of pattern or fixed levels, but I'm not overly fussed on this. Starters have a small pool of levels they can evolve at, and anything outside of the above will likely be questioned. This is up to the movepool makers discretion!

Below is Caribolt's moveset:

Level Up (24 - 21 New)

Evo. Horn Leech
HS Horn Leech (R)
HS Bullet Seed
HS Grassy Terrain
HS Electric Terrain
HS Boomburst
0 Tackle
0 Leafage
0 Leer
0 Thunder Shock
4 Leer (R)
7 Thunder Shock (R)
12 Quick Attack
15 Razor Leaf
19 Confuse Ray
24 Spark
28 Leech Seed
32 Body Slam
37 Seed Bomb
42 Wild Charge
47 Flash
52 Signal Beam
57 Zap Cannon
62 Magnet Rise

Egg (Field) (7 New)

Egg Groups: Field
Double-Edge (Raticate)
Double Kick (Sawsbuck)
Natural Gift (Donphan)
Power Whip (Smeargle*)
Present (Delibird)
Rapid Spin (Sandslash)
Spotlight (Spinda)

TMs (33 - 32 New)

TM01 Work Up
TM06 Toxic
TM08 Bulk Up
TM10 Hidden Power
TM11 Sunny Day
TM15 Hyper Beam
TM17 Protect
TM21 Frustration
TM22 Solar Beam
TM24 Thunderbolt
TM25 Thunder
TM27 Return
TM31 Brick Break
TM32 Double Team
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM48 Round
TM49 Echoed Voice
TM53 Energy Ball
TM57 Charge Beam
TM68 Giga Impact
TM72 Volt Switch
TM73 Thunder Wave
TM75 Swords Dance
TM86 Grass Knot
TM87 Swagger
TM88 Sleep Talk
TM90 Substitute
TM91 Flash Cannon
TM93 Wild Charge (R)
TM96 Nature Power
TM100 Confide

Tutors (16 - 13 New)

Electroweb
Endeavor
Frenzy Plant
Giga Drain
Grass Pledge
Helping Hand
Hyper Voice
Knock Off
Magnet Rise (R)
Seed Bomb (R)
Shock Wave
Signal Beam (R)
Snore
Synthesis
Uproar
Worry Seed

Celebration CAP Event (4 - 2 New)

CAP 25 Celebration
Caribolt @ Bottle Cap
Level 50
Ability: Random
Nature: Random
OT: Cooper
ID: 003089
Met: 2018 Celebration CAP (fateful encounter)
Ribbon: Souvenir Ribbon
- Celebrate
- Horn Leech
- Wild Charge
- Metronome

You can also view Dogfish44's movepool here: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threa...ll-movepool-submissions.3642822/#post-7940333

As usual, Final Submissions will be open from the open of this thread, which I will try and conclude sometime early next week!

 

[LucarioOfLegends]

Hey lets actually post something here:

Final Submission

Babybolt

Level Up (Evo at Lv. 17)

0 Tackle
0 Leafage
4 Leer
7 Thunder Shock
11 Quick Attack
14 Razor Leaf
18 Confuse Ray
22 Spark
26 Leech Seed
30 Body Slam
34 Seed Bomb
38 Wild Charge
42 Flash
46 Signal Beam
50 Zap Cannon
54 Magnet Rise

Most starters level ups don't change, so keeping with that. Only removed Heart Scale moves, repeats (first stages don't have em), and reduced levels. Everything else stayed.

Egg

Egg Groups: Field
Double-Edge (Raticate)
Double Kick (Sawsbuck)
Natural Gift (Donphan)
Power Whip (Smeargle*)
Present (Delibird)
Rapid Spin (Sandslash)
Spotlight (Spinda)

lol

TMs

TM01 Work Up
TM06 Toxic
TM08 Bulk Up
TM10 Hidden Power
TM11 Sunny Day
TM17 Protect
TM21 Frustration
TM22 Solar Beam
TM27 Return
TM31 Brick Break
TM32 Double Team
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM48 Round
TM49 Echoed Voice
TM53 Energy Ball
TM72 Volt Switch
TM75 Swords Dance
TM86 Grass Knot
TM87 Swagger
TM88 Sleep Talk
TM90 Substitute
TM96 Nature Power
TM100 Confide

Removed all electric attacks aside from charge beam since baby bolt probably shouldn't be using these since its not a fully fledged thunder deer yet, but charge beam I think is weak enough that it links with its current (hah) electrical powers. Also removed flash cannon since it also links with the railgun flavor. Otherwise removed general too strong moves, aka Hyper Beam and Giga Impact.

Tutors

Giga Drain
Grass Pledge
Helping Hand
Hyper Voice
Knock Off
Seed Bomb
Snore
Synthesis
Uproar
Worry Seed

No Frenzy Plant because of obvious reasons. Also removed Magnet Rise, Electroweb, Shock Wave and Signal Beam because I feel that it may be too strong for the bebeh deer to use effectively considering that its not great with electricity in this stage. Don't think it has the stamina for it at its current state, so also removing Endeavor to round off these changes.

Teen Angst Deer (Mid Stage)

Level Up (Evo at Lv. 34)

0 Tackle
0 Leafage
4 Leer
7 Thunder Shock
11 Quick Attack
14 Razor Leaf
18 Confuse Ray
22 Spark
26 Leech Seed
30 Body Slam
35 Seed Bomb
40 Wild Charge
45 Flash
49 Signal Beam
53 Zap Cannon
58 Magnet Rise

Just to better transition levels, otherwise moves are the same.

Egg

Egg Groups: Field
Double-Edge (Raticate)
Double Kick (Sawsbuck)
Natural Gift (Donphan)
Power Whip (Smeargle*)
Present (Delibird)
Rapid Spin (Sandslash)
Spotlight (Spinda)

lol: definitive edition

TMs

TM01 Work Up
TM06 Toxic
TM08 Bulk Up
TM10 Hidden Power
TM11 Sunny Day
TM17 Protect
TM21 Frustration
TM22 Solar Beam
TM24 Thunderbolt
TM25 Thunder
TM27 Return
TM31 Brick Break
TM32 Double Team
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM48 Round
TM49 Echoed Voice
TM53 Energy Ball
TM57 Charge Beam
TM72 Volt Switch
TM73 Thunder Wave
TM75 Swords Dance
TM86 Grass Knot
TM87 Swagger
TM88 Sleep Talk
TM90 Substitute
TM91 Flash Cannon
TM93 Wild Charge
TM96 Nature Power
TM100 Confide

Electric-type TMs and Flash Cannon return due to new Grass/Electric typing, Hyper Beam and Giga Impact still omitted until final evolution.

Tutors

Electroweb
Endeavor
Giga Drain
Grass Pledge
Helping Hand
Hyper Voice
Knock Off
Seed Bomb
Shock Wave
Signal Beam
Snore
Synthesis
Uproar
Worry Seed

All but Magnet Rise and Frenzy Plant returned.


Neither mon gets the CAP 25 event, so all moves included through it are omitted as well.

 

[G-Luke]

Final Submission

First Stage

Level Up

Evolves at level 16
0 Tackle
0 Leafage
0 Leer
0 Thunder Shock
4 Leer
7 Thunder Shock
10 Quick Attack
14 Razor Leaf
17 Confuse Ray
20 Spark
24 Leech Seed
29 Body Slam
32 Seed Bomb
36 Wild Charge
39 Flash
43 Signal Beam
46 Zap Cannon
49 Magnet Rise

TM List

TM01 Work Up
TM06 Toxic
TM08 Bulk Up
TM10 Hidden Power
TM11 Sunny Day
TM17 Protect
TM21 Frustration
TM22 Solar Beam
TM27 Return
TM31 Brick Break
TM32 Double Team
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM48 Round
TM49 Echoed Voice
TM53 Energy Ball
TM57 Charge Beam
TM75 Swords Dance
TM86 Grass Knot
TM87 Swagger
TM88 Sleep Talk
TM90 Substitute
TM93 Wild Charge
TM96 Nature Power
TM100 Confide

Egg Moves

Egg Groups: Field
Double-Edge (Raticate)
Double Kick (Sawsbuck)
Natural Gift (Donphan)
Power Whip (Smeargle*)
Present (Delibird)
Rapid Spin (Sandslash)
Spotlight (Spinda)

Tutor Moves

Endeavor
Giga Drain
Grass Pledge
Helping Hand
Hyper Voice
Knock Off
Seed Bomb
Signal Beam
Snore
Synthesis
Uproar
Worry Seed

Mid Stage

Level Up

Evolves at Level 36
0 Tackle
0 Leafage
0 Leer
0 Thunder Shock
4 Leer
7 Thunder Shock
10 Quick Attack
14 Razor Leaf
17 Confuse Ray
20 Spark
24 Leech Seed
29 Body Slam
35 Seed Bomb
40 Wild Charge
44 Flash
48 Signal Beam
52 Zap Cannon
56 Magnet Rise

TM List

TM01 Work Up
TM06 Toxic
TM08 Bulk Up
TM11 Sunny Day
TM15 Hyper Beam
TM17 Protect
TM21 Frustration
TM22 Solar Beam
TM24 Thunderbolt
TM25 Thunder
TM27 Return
TM31 Brick Break
TM32 Double Team
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM48 Round
TM49 Echoed Voice
TM53 Energy Ball
TM57 Charge Beam
TM72 Volt Switch
TM73 Thunder Wave
TM75 Swords Dance
TM86 Grass Knot
TM87 Swagger
TM88 Sleep Talk
TM90 Substitute
TM91 Flash Cannon
TM93 Wild Charge
TM96 Nature Power
TM100 Confide

Egg Moves

Egg Groups: Field
Double-Edge (Raticate)
Double Kick (Sawsbuck)
Natural Gift (Donphan)
Power Whip (Smeargle*)
Present (Delibird)
Rapid Spin (Sandslash)
Spotlight (Spinda)

Tutor Moves

Electroweb
Endeavor
Giga Drain
Grass Pledge
Helping Hand
Hyper Voice
Knock Off
Magnet Rise
Seed Bomb
Shock Wave
Signal Beam
Snore
Synthesis
Uproar
Worry Seed

So for baby Caribolt, its level up movepool stays intact for the most part, just ignoring repetitions. After that I decided to remove almost every electric type attack from its TMs, leaving Volt Switch, Wild Charge and Charge Beam. Wild Charge is common on several Pokemon regardless of type, and Charge Beam is a weak electric attack that Caribaby should be able to use. Volt Switch is just a nod to young deer escaping predators. I also notably removed Flash Cannon as I think it was seen as connected to Caribolt's railgun. Removed most Electric moves from tutors as well. For mid stage, kept its movepool more or less similar movepool, axing out final form exclusives if needed.

 

[DHR-107]

You guys have 24 hours to finalize!

 

[P2X7]

Final Submission

Stage 1

Level-Up

Evolves at Level 16
0 Tackle
0 Leafage
4 Leer
7 Thunder Shock
12 Quick Attack
15 Razor Leaf
17 Confuse Ray
21 Leech Seed
25 Body Slam
29 Seed Bomb
33 Flash
37 Helping Hand
42 Double-Edge

Because Caribolt's first stage lacks the Electric type, almost all Electric-type moves were removed from its Level-Up pool; only Thunder Shock remains to tease the potential development of a secondary typing. Signal Beam was also removed, as it seemed too intensive for the Prevo to use safely. To prevent the movepool from looking too sparse, a few moves were shuffled in from the Egg list; Helping Hand replaces Signal Beam, referencing the caribou's history of domestication and interaction with humanity, while Double-Edge is an easy stand-in for Wild Charge.

Although a radical departure from Caribolt's movepool, there is precedence for drastic alterations in movepool occurring within a starter Pokemon's evolutionary tree. Torchic and Chimchar, both of which eventually gain a secondary typing, have movepools that swell upon evolution; while Treecko swaps out several late additions for moves more suited to its evolutions' distinct and similar designs. Because of the similar circumstances surrounding the Caribolt line, it is thus reasonable to assume that such patterns could continue in this line's movepools.

Egg

Egg Groups: Field
Double-Edge (Raticate)
Double Kick (Sawsbuck)
Natural Gift (Donphan)
Power Whip (Smeargle*)
Present (Delibird)
Rapid Spin (Sandslash)
Spotlight (Spinda)

TM Moves

TM01 Work Up
TM06 Toxic
TM08 Bulk Up
TM10 Hidden Power
TM11 Sunny Day
TM17 Protect
TM21 Frustration
TM22 Solar Beam
TM27 Return
TM31 Brick Break
TM32 Double Team
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM48 Round
TM49 Echoed Voice
TM53 Energy Ball
TM57 Charge Beam
TM75 Swords Dance
TM86 Grass Knot
TM87 Swagger
TM88 Sleep Talk
TM90 Substitute
TM96 Nature Power
TM100 Confide

Removed all Electric-type moves except Charge Beam, which is simple enough for our mono-type Prevo to feasibly use. Flash Cannon was axed for the same reason as Signal Beam. Finally, as moves typically seen only on fully evolved Pokemon, Hyper Beam and Giga Impact were removed.

Tutors

Endeavor
Giga Drain
Grass Pledge
Helping Hand (R)
Hyper Voice
Knock Off
Seed Bomb (R)
Snore
Synthesis
Uproar
Worry Seed
As in its Level-Up pool, all Electric-type moves and Signal Beam were removed. Frenzy Plant is missing because the Prevo isn't yet fully evolved.

Stage 2:

Level-Up

Evolves at Level 36
0 Tackle
0 Leafage
4 Leer
7 Thunder Shock
12 Quick Attack
15 Razor Leaf
19 Confuse Ray
24 Spark
28 Leech Seed
32 Body Slam
36 Seed Bomb
40 Wild Charge
43 Flash
49 Signal Beam

Upon acquiring an Electric typing and a spiffy new set of antlers, the middle stage is sufficiently equipped to use Signal Beam and most of Caribolt's Electric-type moves, which help flesh out the movepool. Nevertheless, Zap Cannon and Magnet Rise are again absent, demonstrating that the newly electrified Pokemon lacks the power and control necessary for such techniques.

Egg

Egg Groups: Field
Double-Edge (Raticate)
Double Kick (Sawsbuck)
Natural Gift (Donphan)
Power Whip (Smeargle*)
Present (Delibird)
Rapid Spin (Sandslash)
Spotlight (Spinda)

TM Moves

TM01 Work Up
TM06 Toxic
TM08 Bulk Up
TM10 Hidden Power
TM11 Sunny Day
TM17 Protect
TM21 Frustration
TM22 Solar Beam
TM24 Thunderbolt
TM25 Thunder
TM27 Return
TM31 Brick Break
TM32 Double Team
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM48 Round
TM49 Echoed Voice
TM53 Energy Ball
TM57 Charge Beam
TM72 Volt Switch
TM73 Thunder Wave
TM75 Swords Dance
TM86 Grass Knot
TM87 Swagger
TM88 Sleep Talk
TM90 Substitute
TM91 Flash Cannon
TM93 Wild Charge (R)
TM96 Nature Power
TM100 Confide

After their brief absence from the first stage's movepool, Caribolt's Electric TM's return in its Prevo's TM list. Flash Cannon also appears here to show the line's increasingly proficiency with projectile attacks. Only Hyper Beam and Giga Impact are left off of the list.

Tutors

Electroweb
Endeavor
Giga Drain
Grass Pledge
Helping Hand
Hyper Voice
Knock Off
Seed Bomb (R)
Shock Wave
Signal Beam (R)
Snore
Synthesis
Uproar
Worry Seed

Not including Magnet Rise, Caribolt's Electric-type moves are restored to the middle stage's Tutor list as well.