NOC C9++ Game Thread

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This is a 13 player semi-open NOC setup.

Pregame, 7 numbers from 1-100 inclusive are randed, with a result of:

1-50 = T (Townie)
51-65 = C (Cop)
66-75 = D (Doctor)
76-85 = V (Vigilante)
86-95 = M (Mason)
96-100 = B (Blocker)

This determines the power roles of the village, how many mafia and their roles, as well as the existence of a serial killer.

C = 1-Shot Cop
CC = Cop
CCC = Cop, 1-Shot Cop
CCCC = 2 Cops
CCCCC = 2 Cops, 1-Shot Cop
CCCCCC = 3 Cops

D = Doctor
DD = Doctor + 1-Shot Doctor
DDD = 2 Doctors
DDDD = 2 Doctors + 1-Shot Doctor
DDDDD = 3 Doctors

V = 1-Shot Vigilante
VV = Vigilante
VVV = Vigilante, 1-Shot Vigilante
VVVV = 2 Vigilantes
VVVVV = 2 Vigilantes, 1-Shot Vigilante

M = Innocent Child
MM = 2 Masons
MMM = 2 Masons + Innocent Child
MMMM = 3 Masons
MMMMM = 2 Masons + 2 Masons (two separate pairings)

B = Roleblocker
BB = Roleblocker + 1-Shot Roleblocker
BBB = 2 Roleblockers
BBBB = 2 Roleblockers + 1-Shot Roleblocker

TTTTTTT = Goon + Godfather, Serial Killer
TTTTTT = Goon + Godfather
TTTTT = Goon + Godfather, Serial Killer
TTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker
TTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker, Serial Killer
TT = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather
T = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather, Serial Killer
0 Ts = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather

*A doctor protection only blocks one kill.
**Innocent child is automatically revealed at the start of Day 1.
***The mafia roleblocker cannot kill and roleblock on the same night.

I have made two modifications from the setup as listed on the wiki

1. The Serial Killer is both BPV and Investigation Immune, rather than needing to choose
2. Mafia gets daytalk since no daytalk is dumb


1. Don't talk to anybody about the game besides in the game thread.
2. If any person gets a majority of votes on them during the day the day ends and the person is lynched.
3. At end of days whoever has the most votes on them will get lynched.
4. Tied lynch=No Lynch. RNG lynches are bad
5. Do not screenshot or quote your role PM or results.
6. Do not edit or delete posts.
7. If you don't post at least 5 times per day you will get automatically subbed out.
8. If you post or like posts during night phase or while dead, especially after a flip, I will cry. Seriously guys, this isn't okay.
9. Deadlines will be 72 hours for days and 24 hours for nights.


Alive:
acidphoenix
Asek
BigBangMeteor
kirsche
MoodyCloud
Fenrir Aesir->Shubaka
Thetwinmasters
zorbees

Earlio - Mafia Roleblocker - Lynched Day 1
Jalmont - Town Mason - Killed Night 1
Haruno - Vanilla Town - Lynched Day 2
DurzaOffTopic - Town Doctor - Killed Night 2
Champ1604->Pancake - Vanilla Town - Lynched Day 3


Subs:
Texas
Blazade
Walrein
Josh
Hawkie
Shubaka

Role PMs are going out now.
 
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Setup-breaking’s not my forte, so no huge analysis of the theme will be coming from me. I’ll just list the thoughts I had when reading over the theme:

No power roles should claim. (Obvious.)

I’m going to be leery of Vigilante claims--that's my go-to Serial Killer fake claim. I’m not listing my criteria for determining if a Vigilante claim’s real, again for obvious reasons.

Question I pose to you all-should we hypo? I see value in it and we obviously wouldn’t start until day 2, but we run the risk of scum hard claiming cop and nobody truly being able to cc.

I’ll close this post with VOTE: acidphoenix, since Hawkie’s not in and you’re a solid turbo target. Also because you stole my ability to post first because I waited for my role PM like a good boy.
 
Its time to take out the PS trash.

Vote Fenrir Aesir
I'm not 100% sure why but I felt genuinely offended.

Fenrir's opening post is also really fucking bad
Explain why, please?

vote Fenrir Aesir

why are you talking about roles so much when there's nothing to talk about?
1. If nothing else, it generates discussion. Alternatively, we can spend the early part of d1 floundering through RVS.
2. This is a super opportunistic way of jumping on the wagon.

I'm going to resort to my "PS Trash" roots and quote the definition used my Mafia Room Bot:
[23:17:17] Mafia Room Bot:Hypo: A strategy in which the whole town claims cop and presents "innocent" investigations on other players except for the real cop. This prevents the Mafia PL from targeting the real cop. Use if Follow-the-Cop is not an option.'
The purpose of it is so that when the real cop dies the town has a large number of clears. When the cop is ready to hardclaim, they can do so (usually in LyLo or when they get one or more scum inspects). I thought it was a common thing in most communities. It would begin on day 2 for the reasons in the below spoiler, quoted from EeveeLution Army (who I don't think plays forum mafia here so it's just a name):
1) it gives scum a slightly less pool
2) when someone is being lynched if they are actual cop people are less likely to believe or if its scum they can hard claim cop and any ccs can be seen as a continue hypo which has happened before
D2 hypo lets everyone have 1 inspect already while d1 the hypo is less organized and gives scum a chance to get cop especially if only 75% of the game hypo and 2 of them are scum

As I said above I'm not a fan of BigBangMeteor's opportunistic vote, so I'm going to Unvote Acidphoenix; Vote BigBangMeteor.

I'm sorry Durza idk how to moderate
 

Asek

Banned deucer.
i think the strategy of the whole town claiming cop is retarded

theres no guarentee we have a cop to hide

cop hiding is performed better by cop placing his investigates into his reads list and then hard claiming when he has like 3-4 cleans because the games basically broken at that point. a vt hides the cop better by bluffing in their reads list and getting mafia to target them

we should drop this discussion its useless
 
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