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Multifaction/FFA 4 Wayne 4 Brady - Game Over (won by apricity, Flyhn, and zorbees)
- Thread starter Ampharos
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lol man that revival ability is fukn nuts, glad i didnt have to face that down
gg to all, thanks to hal and flyhn (and dusk, rip) for the nice alliance when you all probably could have worked with oddish for full green if you wanted to
ItzViper482 i wanted you to win, i didnt hit you with my c7 wand thing even though it probably would have made it easier for me to win because i wanted you to have a fair shot against flyhn
Ampharos i rly enjoyed this game, my only gripe was that some roles seemed a bit better than others, but most seemed on the same power level. For example, Dusk and Oddish both seemed to have really strong roles imo, whereas toni in particular looked really weak compared to most roles. Also, I feel like Paperblade's role was just a worse version of mine. One other thing I would have done as a host is to not fully randomize the playerlist, but rather make sure the colors are relatively balanced in terms of player reputation/experience. Not that it ended up helping, but seeing black with DLE/Blazade/acid/FormerHope compared to blue with Paperblade/Drookez/Toni/Jay Flush was a stark contrast that could potentially have had a bigger impact on how the game played out.
I feel like this game should have 3 major lessons;
1. Don't give out your alias c1 almost ever. There were so many aliases out in the open on c1 from what I know. Especially in a game like this, were even if you don't die right away, you are probably going to take a lot of damage and basically end up starting with a handicap.
2. Work towards your win condition as much as possible, and convince other people to work in your favor. I feel like this was also a big theme in this game. For example, Former Hope tried to work with apricity despite FH being black and apricity being green, and it ended up biting him in the butt. (I mean it also didn't help that apricity was able to get every black alias via moling). Also, apricity convinced viper to make Da Letter El one of his targets for his Chandra's Ignition ability, despite viper not needing him dead. If that had instead targeted a White or Blue alias, there would have been more time for viper to go against Flyhn, and Da Letter El being healthier probably would have further helped that. (admittedly I think we only knew 2 white/blue aliases at that point, but he could have saved that ability until we knew more).
3. If you are a new player, don't just work with your friends. There are only so many people you can win with in a game like this. Also, in FFA games, information is currency. If you only talk to a handful of players, you are restricting the flow of information and will have a harder time working toward your win condition. Additionally, in games like these, it is often difficult to know who is telling the truth and who is lying if you do not have a lot of information. Especially on c1 before anything has happened, before any flips and before any info roles get their information. Stuff like this happened to multiple people this game. From what I know, both Toni and Drookez followed apricity's orders for attacks on the first couple of cycles, which I think had them attacking one of their fellow blues. Also, Fenrir basically only talked to Former Hope for the first couple of cycles which not only let black essentially control his actions (at least black was an allied color, could have been worse), but also let apricity pose as red for a while. I think Oddish worked with Former Hope for a while too, which is probably what led to my inclusion in the majority green alliance instead of her.
Also my spreadsheet's name was Greg Proops so I think that deserves some points.
gg to all, thanks to hal and flyhn (and dusk, rip) for the nice alliance when you all probably could have worked with oddish for full green if you wanted to
ItzViper482 i wanted you to win, i didnt hit you with my c7 wand thing even though it probably would have made it easier for me to win because i wanted you to have a fair shot against flyhn
Ampharos i rly enjoyed this game, my only gripe was that some roles seemed a bit better than others, but most seemed on the same power level. For example, Dusk and Oddish both seemed to have really strong roles imo, whereas toni in particular looked really weak compared to most roles. Also, I feel like Paperblade's role was just a worse version of mine. One other thing I would have done as a host is to not fully randomize the playerlist, but rather make sure the colors are relatively balanced in terms of player reputation/experience. Not that it ended up helping, but seeing black with DLE/Blazade/acid/FormerHope compared to blue with Paperblade/Drookez/Toni/Jay Flush was a stark contrast that could potentially have had a bigger impact on how the game played out.
I feel like this game should have 3 major lessons;
1. Don't give out your alias c1 almost ever. There were so many aliases out in the open on c1 from what I know. Especially in a game like this, were even if you don't die right away, you are probably going to take a lot of damage and basically end up starting with a handicap.
2. Work towards your win condition as much as possible, and convince other people to work in your favor. I feel like this was also a big theme in this game. For example, Former Hope tried to work with apricity despite FH being black and apricity being green, and it ended up biting him in the butt. (I mean it also didn't help that apricity was able to get every black alias via moling). Also, apricity convinced viper to make Da Letter El one of his targets for his Chandra's Ignition ability, despite viper not needing him dead. If that had instead targeted a White or Blue alias, there would have been more time for viper to go against Flyhn, and Da Letter El being healthier probably would have further helped that. (admittedly I think we only knew 2 white/blue aliases at that point, but he could have saved that ability until we knew more).
3. If you are a new player, don't just work with your friends. There are only so many people you can win with in a game like this. Also, in FFA games, information is currency. If you only talk to a handful of players, you are restricting the flow of information and will have a harder time working toward your win condition. Additionally, in games like these, it is often difficult to know who is telling the truth and who is lying if you do not have a lot of information. Especially on c1 before anything has happened, before any flips and before any info roles get their information. Stuff like this happened to multiple people this game. From what I know, both Toni and Drookez followed apricity's orders for attacks on the first couple of cycles, which I think had them attacking one of their fellow blues. Also, Fenrir basically only talked to Former Hope for the first couple of cycles which not only let black essentially control his actions (at least black was an allied color, could have been worse), but also let apricity pose as red for a while. I think Oddish worked with Former Hope for a while too, which is probably what led to my inclusion in the majority green alliance instead of her.
Also my spreadsheet's name was Greg Proops so I think that deserves some points.
That's fair, in general I tend to not really be a proactive player. Should probably work on that...hehe. Social anxiety is a bitch. I kinda just...wait for things to happen and do what I'm told, so I'm pretty easy to fool. As I said multiple times in the chat, the fact I even lived as long as I did when I clearly didn't know what I was doing and no one had any intention of winning with me is odd. I can't really blame anyone for that though, Former Hope and me did work together just because he approached me first and was nice to me lol. I was totally willing to win with green but by the time I found out who everyone else was, it was too late. That's totally on me.
Oh well. Everything is a learning experience!
I think me in the game helped. Flynn also took like no damage all game pretty sure. Everyone had to try get rid of me as first green because I was just getting stronger. The amount I was nuked for in the end was actually insane.